is where doestion this and? and --end?es this this is the bottom. we can do this anymore. host: what is the sustainability of the zero-tolerance policy? guest: i think she asked a question that a lot of us are asking ourselves are now. we can only have so many children. we literally abandoned the practice of having orphanages in the united states. this policy is effectively creating orphans. we don't have the facilities to continue to house these children. the parents are removed from the country in a large part. we have this awkward situation where we have a responsibility to the children who we have effectively orphaned. that is not sustainable. it is really hard for us to see where this policy could possibly end. interestingly, the administration has doubled down on the policy. there is no good and insight. -- no good end in sight. host: next, ralph. good morning. what i would like to know is what is the legal status of these folks in custody? are they detained or have they been arrested? as we all know, there are a different set of circumstances regarding both categori