the aspca estimates 178,000 dogs in the city. according to a 2009-2010 survey, 39% of households have dogs. currently a 2011 parade magazine said 42% of households have dogs nationwide. we have been working with various agencies eight years to establish a permitting process and are anxious to ledge mies our profession. supervisor wiener has worked extensively with the community. we support the legislation and hope the supervisors will consider favorably the amendments. i think the licensing requirement versus an education , you forgot to mention that one. >> which one was that? >> for the license. >> the grandfathering? >> no, no the dog license that all of our clients would have to have. >> thank you for pointing that out. in the original legislation it required dog walkers to ensure the dogs they were walking were licensed, but there was no punishment for it because it would be unfair to punish the walkers instead of the owners. but i have changed that to a requirement that once a year the walkers would provide the owners a shee

>> it had to do with ability to control and to clean up after the dogs as well as wear and tear on city property. those are the two. and safety being a part of the ability to control, recognizing there be dog walkers who have problems controlling two dogs and some dog walkers who control a lot more, and that smaller dogs are different than bigger dogs. but smaller dogs can be difficult than bigger dogs. in terms of administering a program and enforcing them and consistent enforcement, it would be challenging to have a sliding scale in terms of the number of dogs. president o'brien: right. you kind of led into what i was going to get to, whether they discussed about the size of the dog. and i was also wondering if there maybe was a discussion about the breed of the dog. rottweilers, or the pe czar yo -- i'm not an expert on dogs, but some of these others that we hear about, there might be an idea that some sort of a delineation for dogs that are known for being bred for fighting purposes or something like that. just a thought that i had. >> yeah. i mean, i could envision a system where y

i go with the professional dog walkers estimate of 500 dogs in the city. people that go have their dogs in larger groups can pay less money than someone who does a dog walk individually. speaking personally, i had my dog walked by someone who did a single walk. she had some behavioral issues which that walker was able to train out of here. she was a little fear aggressive, and it worked out. i wanted her to walk with someone focused on her. at the time i was paying about $25 or $20 a day for a dog walk, and i think the largers groups should pay less. >> thank you. >> good afternoon, i am the co-founder and chair of the chrisy field dog group. we are a non-profit organization with over 600 members based here in san francisco. before i begin, i would like to thank and recognize supervisor weesh for authoring this important legislation. it has been a long time coming, and scott has had the

dog city. kababistan. they are all going to park right there. there are about six or seven. it is amazing the amount of money that will be taken out of the restaurants right there. if we look at the gross sales that they are going to do an apply all of the expenses that we incur and pass it on to them, the same expenses, if you look at it, if they make $520,000.72% our expenses, that is 28% net income before taxes. under $520,000 is $145,000. in five days, one truck can take -- we take $900,000 in sales but only 10%, $90,000. we are asking the city, we are asking you, ladies and gentlemen, to please ask the city supervisors to revisit this. thank you very much. >> thank you. 11-107. >> good afternoon. i have been involved in this area since i was a child. i am a native san franciscan. my father was involved in this. maybe old-timer is no him. he was pretty well-known. there are a number of points. the big issue in this country is jobs. the brief and mortar -- it takes a lot of people to run a brick and mortar restaurant. our client has hired a lot of people to get it started

i have watched the big explosion of dog walking in the city in the time i have been doing it, and what have seen is sometimes dog walkers will kind of normalize -- maybe not necessarily having control over the pack. even though somebody has been doing it quite a while, it doesn't necessarily mean they know what they are doing 100%. some people do. what you have to consider perhaps in addition to -- the end result in getting the licensing, having some sort of test that people have to complete. you say we all have different styles, but we want the same end result, dogs that are well under control so that we can all be in the same parks with each other, that we are not scaring families, chasing kite boarders and things like that. the result is a well managed pack of dogs. they may have different weighs, but can we have some sort of test that people have to pass, written or something, or having animal care and control to see how they manage the pack, but just so that we have the same end result. i have seen people normalize behavior, and they say well, you lose dogs sometimes. that is not

and i know you can walk your dog on the land, the best that you can, walk your dog you can all the doggie fans. what a city plan, to walk the dogs on the land. walk the dog that can the best you can. you walk the doggie. i want you to walk the doing, you can, the best that you can, walk 'em on the city land that you can. what a city plan, and land commission land. walk a doggie you can on the city land ♪ >> thank you, mr. paulson. >> that is tough to follow. i will do the best i can. >> we try to get them warmed up for everyone. >> my name is natalie. i am a dog walker and trainer. my company is called top dog ss. i want to say thank you for all of your help. your feedback as been great, and you are responsive and helpful. thank you. i think it has been an overdue net for a long time in our profession. a couple of things i want to talk about is the number of dogs. i think you can have four really bad dogs or you can have eight great ones. it is in terms of enforcement and regulation. i hear a lot about everybody having a hard time for funding, a.c.c., park and rec and so forth. i'm not sure about how all t

professional dog walkers who use city property such as parks to conduct their business. anest maded one third of san francisco households have dogs. dogs need space for exercise including parks. i have fought hard to ensure dog access to our public spaces, including an attempt earlier this year. our dog population rely on a critical commercial service. professional dog walkers allow people who work to care for their dogs. dog walkers are with these dogs most days. they care for them. they walk them, and they are often like family both to the dogs and to the clients. dog walkers are a key part of san francisco's commercial support structure. they are small business owners and deserve our support. the purpose of this legislation is to set basic standards for professional dog walkers who use city parks and property. i work closely with a group of shareholders to drag legislation, including several dog walker organizations, the spca, the neighborhood parks council and several city departments. since introduction i have received a very significant amount of useful feedback pri

>>trace: a retired chicago police officer living in iowa is suing to get his dog back saying the city's on pit bulls forced him to give up his dog which he said is a certified service dog, that helped him get around since he had a stroke a few years ago. he claims the americans with disability act clears his pit bull and now to our legal panel, former prosecutor and criminal defense attorney. it seems that this local ordinance is kind of trumping federal law. >>guest: well, it actually should not because federal law trumps city and state laws. the american disability act in 2010, said any service dog could be any breed so the owner, whose dog was taken away can choose my breed he would like. as a service dog. the city is in violation of the law. >>trace: it seems to me, they are also taking away this man's right to get around, his independent, if you will. >>guest: the department of justice actually has a website where they have questions and one of the questions is, can it be any question and it underlines any dog, a german shepard, pit bull, and it is a clear violation and the city or