-16 does a dogfight at. they're doing a dogfight, doing tight turns at about .75 mach. the new f-22 stealth fighter will go into and engage another aircraft at 1.5 mach. when you do turns at twice the speed of an f-15 and f-16, you've got a much wider radius of a turn. that's why they need all that area. and when they are dropping on targets, they're dropping live ordinance. -- ordnance. when we are testing here at egeland air force base long-range weapons systems, some that we release from airplanes, some that are shot from ships, we need hundreds of miles of range. that's why the operative policy of the department of defense is that you can't have oil rigs out here to interfere with national security preparation. but apparently that's not why 13 members of the senate energy committee understood this argument. now, there's another argument. and, by the way, i might point out that in that realignment of the bases that they're bringing into egeland air force base right here all the pilot training for the new