scarlet: aubrey mcclendon was what aubrey mcclendon -- was 's doingrey mcclendon exceptional in the industrythere was another company that was supposedly colluding to fix the amount of money it would pay to drill on land. alix: i would go to you and try to get your parents land and leases. i would least that land to a competitor for a low price. there were no bidders, there was no racking up the price, and that's how you would keep those costs low. aubrey mcclendon did start a american energy partners, the same kind of thing. i-chesapeake.min -chesapeake. this was part of his comeback. how much traction did he get? >> they got a substantial amount of backing, first reserve, blackstone, energy and minerals group, run by john raymond, so he had backing by serious people in serious money. again,acquiring land also extending into australia. andlet: aubrey mcclendon tom more work like a land leased guys. they would least your land and release it to a bigger oil company and pocket the difference. that is how they started. they went from that to building chesapeake, the biggest producer of natural