th would say well, they nt their way, we went o way, we don't have much to doith them amore, don'talk to us abo them. then ty agreed to the space walks and nshlly they said... sixparty talks. th initially theyaid we will hold the tks, we' provide the venue, you do the negotiating. w they've come and are actively participati in it. in a way the same with sudan and the dfur problem. they said we buy oil from sudan an we sell sff to th, what they do is their business, not ours. nowthey're graduallyaying yes we recognize that we have. th there are things we can do and should do. i think 's a process of wh foer deputy secretar zoellick called having ina become a respsible state holder. and i thk they're movinging in that direction. but they're moving slowly and gradually toecome involved in thgs that aren't just in their very narrow bilateral economi like economics. >> rose: but on the other hand, they believe th having a strong economi posture is essential fothem being able to al with the internal tensions. >> oh, absolutely. no queion about that. and that... they single mindedly nce deng