i don't see that at the doj. when top officials learned that children were being held by border patrol for longer than 72 hours, violating federal law, did doj stop the federal tolerance policy? i.g. horowitz: as all of this was occurring in may and these reports were coming out, there was no change in the zero-tolerance policy, with the executive order being issued that ceased it to be allowed to go forward. rep. ocasio-cortez: so they knew these children were being held longer, for 72 hours. they knew that federal law was being violated in the detention of these children. and they continued the policy. sessions dismissed this by pushing for even faster prosecutions, saying "we are in 9/11 mode." deputy attorney general rosenstein claimed he would have deported u.s. attorneys if they had said they would not have prosecuted all of these parents. he also noted that sessions was adamant this program needed to continue. right? i.g. horowitz: that is correct. that is what we were told. even as information started com

both houses were told that we had the doj request and we were going to give precedent to a doj request. they were both told, and -- and, yes. the we gave the department of justice request precedence over the state legislators' request, true. federal government took precedence over the state legislators' request. i know the state legislators. i've spoken to them. they said we're just as important as the department of justice. i understand their point of view. we gave precedence to the department of justice. we told the assembly that. we told the senate that. and that's what we're do and we're also in the midst of managing a doctor and dr. zucker is here every day and dr. zucker is here every night at midnight and dr. zucker is dealing with the hospitals, et cetera, but, yes, we prioritized doj over the state legislature and that's what they focused on and forgot -- besides the state legislature, there were people requests. there were press requests that were not answered on a timely basis and that created the void that i'm talking about, and then once you create a void people spread dis

sessions and his advisors and doj were a "driving force" and pushing doj to start separating families at the border. what did you mean by the term " driving force"? i.g. horowitz: we found that in advance of announcing the zero-tolerance policy in early april, attorney general sessions ' expectation was that it would lead to the referral of adults traveling with children. that did not immediately occur in their were continued meetings and that april to may 4 time when doj announced it intended to make such referrals, and during that time period, it was attorney general sessions and the department pushing the department of homeland security's to make that change. rep. maloney: also based on your report, it appears that general sessions and other doj officials knew exactly what would happen because they had done it before, in 20, 0-tolerance pilot program. it led to the separation of hundreds of children. your report says the officials new in 2018 that the government has been unable to reunify children who were separated during this pilot program, is that right? i.g. horowitz: congressw

they were answering doj. and nursing homes and the hospitals were also in the middle of hell and the middle of a pandemic. they were scrambling and managing the crisis. i understand all of that. but the void we created by not providing information was filled with skepticism and cynicism and conspiracy theories which further the confusion. nature abhors a vacuum. so does the political system. you don't provide information, something will provide the information. most of all, the void we created allowed disinformation. and that created more anxieties for the families of loved ones. i've had hundreds of conversations. people couldn't get into the facility to see their loved one. they couldn't get them on the phone. they couldn't get staff on the phone to get answers. they were powerless. they were helpless. they were literally physically removed and isolated. loved ones died alone. loved ones died alone. fathers, mothers, brothers, sisters died alone. it was horrific. it was horrific. and then the void and infor

and what a biden doj get involved? >> i hope this isn't another case of the department of justice in the biden administration playing politics, there are serious questions and a serious investigation needs to happen, negligently or recklessly people's lives were lost, that is a perfect example where, investigations should happen but ultimately, this is a demonstration of where politicians avoid the hard truth and governor cuomo and his administration made some serious mistakes and my heart breaks for these families who had their loved ones lives cut short. shannon: when the majority of these cases people cannot be with them as they were passing away and that's one of the coolest parts of this entire thing. we were getting some sort of explanation from this to resume come into this and somebody is making this information because the ones who were on this call or somebody somehow, the new york times early on friday he sought to clarify the context for her remarks were jobs explaining that when we received the doj inquiry

his public service is more clearly shown on his -- in 1979, judge garland joined the doj as a special assistant. during his tenure which spans both democratic and republican administration's, he led multiple high-profile investigations, working on a number of issues, including criminal, civil, antitrust, espionage and national security measures. he gained valuable experiment -- experience, notably, he played a key role in the prosecution of the oklahoma city bomber's as previously noted. following his career there, the united states senate confirmed his nomination for a lifetime appointment. judge garland arford -- offered hundreds of opinions on criminal justice and voting rights among other issues. issues that affect americans in every corner of this country. as a judge, he was part of decisions that required contractors to comply with the re-ability should effort of 1973. this decision -- rehabilitation effort of 1973. it is this legacy of public service that gives me confidence that, if confirmed to be our nation's chief law enforcement officer, judge garland will not only moderni

that can't happen in federal court and the doj wouldn't authorize that. it's more of an uphill battle even though the trial in the senate for political reason was uphill battle. but i think they will take a serious look at it. the leadership of the doj is is not installed under the biden administration. as someone pointed out earlier merrick garland has a confirmation hearing coming up soon. probably he will not answer any question as to process prejudge the issue of criminal exposure for donald trump with respect to january 6th. but i think it's an open question. and they'll probably at least look at it. >> so i guess -- look it's biden's doj. i know you say we don't know what merrick garland will do. but it's biden's doj i say that in the sense of wherever the facts lead you there is the political question that's put out there, right? >> so does what mcconnell said give cover to merrick garland, the biden doj to go after trump at all? >> yeah, that's a good question. i think that the play tonic ideal for an attorney general and department of justice is

his public service is more clearly shown on his -- in 1979, judge garland joined the doj as a special assistant. during his tenure which spans both democratic and republican administration's, he led multiple high-profile investigations, working on a number of issues, including criminal, civil, antitrust, espionage and national security measures. he gained valuable experiment -- experience, notably, he played a key role in the prosecution of the oklahoma city bomber's as previously noted. following his career there, the united states senate confirmed his nomination for a lifetime appointment. judge garland arford -- offered hundreds of opinions on criminal justice and voting rights among other issues. issues that affect americans in every corner of this country. as a judge, he was part of decisions that required contractors to comply with the re-ability should effort of 1973. this decision -- rehabilitation effort of 1973. it is this legacy of public service that gives me confidence that, if confirmed to be our nation's chief law enforcement officer, judge garland will not only moderni

what would be the role of the doj and would a biden doj get involved in this?another case of the department of justice in the biden administration playing politics. really, you know, there are some serious questionsen a a serious investigation needs to happen. and if negligently or recklessly people's lives were lost, i think that is a perfect example of where a criminal investigation should happen. but ultimately, you know, this is a demonstration of where politicians avoid the hard truths, and i think governor cuomo and his administration made some serious mistakes and my heart just breaks for these families that had their loved one's lives cut too short >> shannon: especially when in the majority of these cases people could not be with them as they were passing away and that's one of the cruelest parts of this entire thing. now, we were getting some sort of explanation from ms. derosa who is the one who made the comments in this. and by the way who's a democrat is leaking this information because they were the ones who were on this call, or somebody in there

the we did give the doj request precedence, and we told both houses that.request we replied to fully. separately doh got a doj letter signed by jeffrey clark, the attorney in october are which we learned about from the "new york post." we didn't even get the letter. "the post" called and told us about a letter, and that request of information on an investigation on private nursing homes, and we have been voluntarily producing information for that on a rolling basis, as recently as january 8th as offered by doj, the rolling basis production. the second, we paused the state legislature's request. we paused the state legislature's request. the we voluntarily complied with the doj request for information, two very different things. the new york state doh has always fully and publicly reported all covid deaths in nursing homes and hospitals. they have always been fully reported. nursing homes had the most vulnerable population. we know that. the nationwide 36% of the deaths are in nursing homes. you know what percent of the population are people in nursing homes

>> the doj is advisory. they make a recommendation but it is the president and president alone who decides whether to check yes or no on that pardon box. >> i yield back. thanks to all the witnesses. >> thank you, mr. johnson. next up is the new member from north carolina. you are recognized. >> thank you so much, mr. chairman and thanks to all the witnesses. this has been a fascinating warning and thank you for your perspective and scholarship. i have a couple of questions. just to narrow down when there could ever be an abuse of the pardon power. the first question is can the president exercise of clemency ever violate our current laws prohibiting obstruction of justice or bribery? >> thank you very much for that question. i was neglectful not saying to my colleagues from academia and advocacy what a pleasure it is to be here. josh and i go way back. i first met josh when he was a young law clerk. we are good friends and it is good to be here. your question is a very important one and i appreciate it. as i

i pledge that as chairman i will hold annual doj oversight hearings where members from both sides of the aisle can ask important questions of you in that capacity. i don't want to go into detail but ask you would you agree to cooperate in that commit to an oversight -- commitment to an oversight hearing? judge garland: of course. i will cooperate. sen. durbin: when requests are made for information, i hope i can have your commitment to cooperation in providing timely answers. judge garland: yes, mr. chairman. we will be as responsive as we possibly can. as i said, i have great respect for and belief in the oversight role of this committee. sen. durbin: thank you. senator grassley? senator grassley: since you are currently a sitting judge bound by the code of conduct of u.s. judges i hope we can get frank answers from you on your views. when we talked last on the phone, you told me you would give guidance -- get guidance from the administering office on what you can and can't say. i assume you sought that guidance. if so, what did they advise you? judge garland: yes, senator grassley,

>> the doj is clearly advisory. the attorney general general pettus aborts make recommendations but it's the president alone who decides to check yes. >> i yield back, tread th. thank you to all witnesses. >> thank you, mr. johnson. next are questioning is ms. ross, new member from north carolina and you are welcome and you are recognized. >> thank you so much, mr. chairman. and thank you to all the witnesses this is been a fascinating morning and thank you for your perspective and for your scholarship. i have a couple questions for ms. fredrickson. just to narrow down when there could ever be and that use of the pardon power. and the first question is, can the president's exercise of the pardon power of clemency ever violate our current criminal laws prohibiting obstruction of justice or bribery? >> thank you very much for the question. and i was neglectful in not saying to my colleagues from academia and from advocacy what a pleasure it is to be. josh and and i go way, way . that's to say i first met josh would us

the doj has a role in working to help us develop reasonable solutions to this challenge?well, again, senator, i think that every opportunity that the justice department has to work with members of the senate, i think about how to solve problems and craft legislation is one that we should take. i don't have any mind particularly legislation in this area. i do think that an important part of the investigation of violent extremist groups is following their activities online and getting an idea of what kind of information and misinformation is being put out. i look forward to talking more about this with you. >> well there is increasing regulatory schemes both in europe and in california and other states being considered. and i look forward to working with you on striking that appropriate balance between protecting data privacy and protec protecting individual liberty and the competitiveness of the united states and globally making sure that we're pushing back on digital authoritarianism. i'm glad to see the department is prosecuting i think 235 charges so far against rioters

former law partner for hunter biden's attorney, he is running the doj probe into hunter biden, he isecused himself. he is running the criminal division. he refused himself from the hunter biden case. two things before we go. are you confident in this hunter biden case and have you been threatened with retaliation for speaking out? >> look, when you speak out, a whole bunch things happen, crazy things happen all the time. it is part of the job. you know what you're in for. i will not talk about any of those problems. i'm fine. people should know, this is participate of the game and we are courageous enough to hit back and fight and that is what we're going to do because it is the right thing to do. but i do want to say that hunter biden's business partner, lawyer, in this whole mess with the doj, this is an individual who was interviewing for the job when all of sudden 50 former intelligence officials said don't look at the hunter biden laptop because it is just russian disinformation. this individual was was interviewing for a job and close to the biden team and should have spoken ou

cuomo claims the doj and state legislature both requested a report at the same time and admittedly putanswering lawmakers to fill the report request from the doj. >> is there anything that you personally apologize for? >> we did not do a good enough job in providing information. i take total responsibility for that the void we created furthered the confusion. >> so if you were looking for an apology there was not one there late last month the state department of health reported there was nearly 9,000 covid nursing home deaths in new york. but the attorney general's report finds the deaths were nearly double that cuomo passing blame to nursing home staff for bringing covid into the facilities. lawmakers now pushing to strip cuomo of emergency authority to issue unilateral it directives to respond to the pandemic. >> forget the emmy. he need to win oscar for lying dog faced pony soldier today. to hear him not apologize the democrats who are not in charge refuse to take this executive order privilege back. he needs to resign. >> cuomo's press conference comes days after top aide told demo

official doj inquiry. jessica ramos rode, trash, no one believes me. it democratic new york state senator tweeted, cuomo's press conference was riddled with lies, theater, and deflection. yell i knew said cuomo's comments were frightening because for their blatant goals to mislead. at least 14 democratic state senators are calling for cuomo's covid emergency powers to be stripped away. >> a year ago, those emergency powers were necessary. it today, they no longer seem necessary. >> despite critics concerns that the governor has undermined the public, the pandemic is best managed under him and his emergency power to make unilateral governing decisions. >> bret: bryan llenas in brooklyn, thank you. stocks missed today, the dow gained 64, the s&p lost two, the nasdaq dropped 48. there are serious questions tonight about the future for the

could the biden doj prosecute companies and institutions for systemic racism? bob woods reacts to a poisonous answer on that from joe biden's ag pick. why the heck is nbc news promoting an activist who is actually calling for the end of all prisons? the head of the detroit police response next. the head of the detroit in a recent clinical study, patients using salonpas patch reported reductions in pain severity, using less or a lot less oral pain medicines. and improved quality of life. that's why we recommend salonpas. it's good medicine. >> you've all heard the term systemic racism casually thrown around for years now. what does it mean? that's just it, no one really knows. despite that, president biden's nominee for attorney general appeared before the senate today and yesterday and argued that the doj has jurisdiction over the entire idea of systemic racism. >> i think it is a plain to me that there is discrimination and widespread disparate treatment of communities of color and other ethnic minorities in this country. >> if you say an institution is system

number three at the doj. and after the campaign trail, joe biden is now fully endorsing a study looking at reparations, the legendary bob floyd reacts to that. first, they don't care about you. that's the focus of tonight's angle. in may 2019, that showed travel to the border town of del rio, texas, to document the growing illegal immigration crisis at the time. no record numbers of illegals, family units, and unaccompanied minors were flooding across the rio grande. soon afterwards, president trump tightened processing of a side leaves and refugee applications and he even struck historic agreements with mexico and central america to try to tackle the problem here. at the number of border crossers in turn dropped dramatically. but now, joe biden is in the process of reversing all of that progress. beyond creating a humanitarian nightmare, his policies will create more economic and security problems for an america that is already on the edge. simply put, biden is captive to two constituencies. the left, that w

doj has antitrust investigation into google right now.significance of whole foods. susan davis is reportedly attorney general merrick garland's is top pick for the spot. she represented facebook in 2010 lawsuit. she faced off against the sec in several lawsuits defending big business. facebook is facing their own lawsuit from the sec and 40 states attorneys general. even if silicone valley might sleep soundly with someone like hess or davis in charge of the doj antitrust division they might be sleeping with one eye open because the new chairman of the antitrust committee in the senate, senator amy klobuchar already introduced a bill with sweeping changes aimed at updating antitrust laws to apply to industries of today, including making courts be more receptive to taking on antitrust lawsuits than they have in the past and also shifting the burden of proof from the government to the companies to prove that a merger or acquisition would not do harm to consumers and would keep a competitive environment. charles? charles: hillary vaughn, than

because there is a conflict when the doj prosecutors reject the prosecutions that they have had.his could be a check and a new vehicle to go directly to the president. i think the president also could look to create and streamline the process for clemency taking it out of the doj and i would encourage looking at deborahurt who was pardoned in the office of the attorney during the obama administration as caroline said they wanted to move 10000 commutations a couple of problems that she faced as they open the stream for people to get in applications andsing on racial justice sentencing they didn't have the resources to add staff because to provide more resources so congress could play a role and second and those making recommendations people inside and outside of the criminal justice system i think that could be a real tool . >> so in your testimony you note those policies like the war on drugs have been devastating communities of color you believe the presidential administration should use the power to remedy these injustices. why do you feel they have been reluctant in this wayy?

that's his number one value, that's historically doj's number one value. when he is asked, did you discuss this investigation with president biden, he said unequivocally, no, i have not. i think he's made it very clear. watching ted cruz interrogate merrick garland, and he skipped over the last four years. he didn't say anything about what donald trump did. i worked under doj under the bush administration, the obama administration. what happened the last four years is far, far worse than any of those. it was hard to sit here and listen to ted cruz sort of get on his high horse about politicization of doj, but i think merrick garland has made quite clear that independence is his number one priority. >> since you brought it up, let's talk about the politics, dana. ted cruz, let's just say, humiliating and embarrassing trying to prove his bona fides and talking about eric holder as this horrible attorney general. the democrats wanted to talk about bill barr and donald trump and the justice department at large, so the issue came up about independence. let's li

there was doj. fighting it across the board. there ain't a trump exception.es, but trump was doctoring doj to ask for these things that was not going to fly. the fighting over information coupled with the secretary's comment is devastating about what the intent was when they didn't give real numbers. elizabeth: the issue he covered up the true death toll to make him look better. it is not 86,000 but 15,000 and counting according to the associated press. he is trying to sue the federal government. he is trying to blame shift, blaming the cdc guidelines. legal experts say he doesn't have a case. they're guidelines, not rules or laws set in stone, set in cement because florida governor desantis, we didn't adhere to the guidelines. we separated patients out of nursing homes. they wouldn't put them back into nursing homes. we put them in separate facilities. does he have a leg to stand on with that? >> that is the key. the guidelines are not a defense to the dishonesty part to the destructive part. would come into play if an aggressive state prosecutor tried to ch

and when you have members of doj and fbi investigating deaths due to covid in nursing homes and you b giving them misinformation that could be punishable, i hope there is a full, fair investigation, of the facts that we know now, if they are true, there are a lot of federal offenses that governor cuomo himself may have violated, you can't tell me he did not know. elizabeth:ow it should be noted u.s. past around a half million people dead from covid-19. this is a doj probe involving false claims act in medicare, medicaid, he stonewalled democrats then justice department civil right division, that demanded data for all 600 new york nursing homes, and injuring -- jurisdiction to investigate fraud. >> he stonewalled string say -- trump administration saying this was a political hit job. it was not. look at new york and compare to states like florida, they had 16,000 more deaths than florida -- we're larger and more diverse and an more elderly population, itin because of the decisions ty made. this is a disgrace to america and to citizens of new york. elizabeth: yeah. the government and cd

the press is been asking from it, cuomo claimed the doj and state legislatures both requested a

the press is been asking from it, cuomo claimed the doj and state legislatures both requested a report at the same time and put a pause on answering lawmakers to fill the report question the doj. >> anything you personally apologize for? >> we did not do a good enough job dispensing information and i take total responsibility for that. the void we created further the confusion. todd: late last month the state department of health reported there were nearly 9000 covid-19 nursing home deaths in new york, the attorney general's report finds the deaths were nearly double that, close to 15,000, cuomo blaming nursing home staff are bringing covid-19 into the facility. >> staff walking into the nursing home were asymptomatic because the national experts told us you could only spread covid-19 if you had symptoms. that is covid-19 got into the nursing homes. of you to his comments disturbing a lot of people. interesting has been outspoken about the controversy. he lost both her in-laws to covid-19 while in a new york nursing home. your reaction to the press conference. >> i'm astonished, passin

celebrating doj's 150th year reminds us of the origins of the department. which was founded during reconstruction in the aftermath of the civil war to secure the civil rights that were promised in the 13th, 14th and 15th amendments. the first attorney general appointed by president grant to head the new department led it in a concerted battle to protect black voting rights from the violence of white extremists. succes successfully prosecuting hundreds of cases against white supremacist members of the ku klux klan. almost a century later the civil rights act of creitied the civil rights division to uphold the constitutional rights of all americans, particularly some of the most vulnerable members of our society. on the website of the department's civil rights division, remains urgent because we do not yet have equal justice. communities of color and other minorities still face discrimination in housing, in education, in employment, and in the criminal justice system. and they bear the brunt of the harm caused by pandemic, pollution, and climb change. 150 yea

the press, that read the freedom of information act generously, that respect the professionalism of dojloyees, and that set out the principles of federal prosecution to guide the exercise of prosecutorial discretion. in conversations that i have had with many of you before this hearing, you have asked why i would agree to leave a lifetime appointment as a judge. i have told you that i love being a judge, but i have also told you that this is an important moment for me to step forward because of my deep respect for the department of justice and for its critical role of ensuring the rule of law. celebrating doj's 150th year reminds us of the origins of the department which was founded during reconstruction in the aftermath of the civil war to secure the civil rights that were promised in the 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments. the first attorney general appointed by president grant to head the new department led it in a concerted battle to protect black voting rights from the violence of white extremists. successfully prosecuting hundreds of cases against white supremacist members of the ku

adrian, the doj, they did unveil some of the endorsements for judge garland over the weekend. ranging from civil rights groups to the fraternal order of police. that same group endorsed former president trump in 2016 and 2020. what do these endorsements from very different groups, what do they tell us or should they tell us about what kind of ag merrick garland might be? >> i'm glad you mentioned the fact that the fraternal order of police has a history of endorsing republicans. i think the fact that you have got the national action network, combined with the fop, both endorsing merrick garland says everything you need to know. this is a broad coalition of groups that have come together to endorse his nomination. i think these groups know that he is the type of leader, the trusted leader to restore integrity to the department of justice. >> if confirmed, the judge will also, as has been discussed here in the hearing a number of times so far, he takes over a department that's currently investigating the deadly insurrection at the capitol back on january 6th. two of the senators

i don't think they havebeen , i don't think doj has been very receptive to that request.we have looked into whether or not you can designate an oversight body at a law-enforcement agency which would give them all the speed to access and we would have direct access to bwc. also we have not gotten very far on that and that will require legislation and the government code. i have sadly i will say reached out to some departments that i know had unfetteredaccess to bwc . unfortunately, when i raised the issue of what san francisco's concerns were which is this inadvertent information being released, the law enforcement agencies didn't think of that as a potential problem but now maybe they do. so based on that, those civilian agencies that had some unfettered access to bwc, there may be some issues with thatnow so because of that i stopped asking that question . i don't want to have any other civilian agencies oversight agencies have any issues if they are gettingunfettered access to body worncameras so it's a work in progress . we haven't been able to resolve that . though i

and, the investigations and there's a possibility of the doj getting involved. we will get into this continuing debate on whether or not schools can safely be reopened. the cdc director had a long back and forth with jake tapper and it's seems like she was backtracking on what she said, was she under political pressure? this is how hot air summed it up. take 10 minutes to watch the interview below which can be paraphrased this way. this is a national crisis, kids need to be back in class immediately. if that means tolerating a higher degree of risk then should we do that? wilensky -- i'm sorry come only near-perfect safety will do. doctor, what are we to believe on schools? >> i have a lot of respect for dr. wilensky and i can't speculate about what kind of pressure she's under but i want to go back to the saints here which is what she should be doing, not the politics of fear or politicization of it what is a medical issue. and those are socialization issues, mental health issues and physical issues, that's public health. that's enormous. in terms of the school

claim if he has done that they withheld data because they thought it would be used against him by the doj the claiming they inform the legislature is a lie on top of a lie. mary garland's confirmation hearings threats a week from today. we know president biden's nominee for attorney general will be asked whether he will use the full weight of the justice department to pursue, the charges against donald trump but what about governor cuomo. will be administration supporter doj probes gets the bottom of thousands of new york nursing home deaths? hello and welcome to fox news at night. we start with the latest reactions tonight. >> the governor is quickly losing allies, democrats calling it trash and riddled with lies. >> there's nothing to investigate. >> new york governor andrew cuomo asking -- answering a bipartisan paul call to strip his emergency powers the mid-follow from the nursing home scandal that keeps getting worse. last week his top aides says the state did delay the release of nursing home deaths fearing it would be used against him by the trump administration admitted departmen

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it was disgusting how trump politicized doj. he tried to do it even more than he got away with. the nerve of them to sit there and act like -- cornyn said the only reason he could ever vote against him is if he wouldn't pledge to keep politics out of doj. these guys have some nerve, don't they? unbelievable. >> there's so much. we have two pieces of sound i think to illustrate both of your points. let me first play his response to ted cruz and we'll get a response to this. >> i can assure you that i do not regard myself as anything other than the lawyer for the people of the united states. and i am not the president's lawyer. i am the united states' lawyer. and i will do everything in my power, which i believe is considerable, to fend off any effort by anyone to make prosecutions or investigations partisan or political in any way. my job is to protect the department of justice and its employees in going about their job and doing the right thing according to the facts and the law. >> andrew weissmann, he had to say that because bill barr's motto was do the shuffle wherever his cr

we froze because of president trump's doj probe. what do you say to that?ignificant probe by federal investigators. unfortunately my understanding melissa derosa's mother-in-law is the u.s. attorney for southern district of new york. they will have to bring in somebody else from the department of justice to properly do an investigation without a conflict of interest. you have nine, i think it is the democratic lawmakers that are calling on the governor to take some dramatic action and step away from this issue. you have the one specific democrat who is saying that he was threatened. i think anybody in law enforcement would like to know specifically. remember this is allegedly a coverup of the numbers. it is not just about new york. the centers for disease control is trying to figure out how the disease is spread, who it is affecting, how it is being affected. so when you cover up, don't provide the data, the centers for disease control it affects us across the country because then the scientists cannot do their job. elizabeth: that is an important point you

be a test for cuomo over the next two years as he runs for reelection and also a test for the biden dojhuck schumer might be pleased by this but it loosens the leftist hatred and back that up. >> of an investigation picks up something, that is hypothetical. what type of repercussions could he potentially face, what are we talking about here? >> obstruction of justice charge at the very least. if we are talking legal fallout that is what we have come a newsletter, top new york republicans to recruit leaves eldon to run against cuomo and that is a big deal, somebody who could win that race. jillian: there is a lot here. thank you for breaking it down. >> intrigue on the east coast for the west coast, new los angeles district attorney will no longer seek the death penalty charged and officers killing. killing keith boyer in 2017, two month after district attorney gascon was one into office swearing he would no longer pursue the death penalty. jillian: a california school superintendent apologizing after board members shame parents for wanting in person learning. >> you are going to call me

the biden administration is the new custodian of doj.y now have the difficult, important task of cleaning up the mess left behind there and making sure that the department of justice can never again be used as some president's personal legal cudgel. but they also have to figure out what to do with these still sparking live wires. like this one. e. jean carroll, storied american journalist. she wrote a column for "elle" magazine for more than 25 years. in 2019, she accused trump of rape. she said it happened in the mid-'90s. she said trump shoved her against a wall, pulled down her stockings, forced himself on her against her will. trump denied the allegations, said she was lying. said he could not be guilty of raping her because he said she was, quote, not my type. he says he had never even met her. that was immediately contradicted by at least one picture of carroll and donald trump together. so e. jean carroll sued donald trump for defamation, for calling her a liar. that defamation suit sort of plodded along in the courts for the bett

not just doj but states and locals as well. borrowing from the counterterrorism model that was used post 9/11 but in some significant different ways. borrowing from the use of -- the approach of prevention rather than prosecution. we would rather have prevented the el paso attack or prevented the insurrection then be prosecuting after the fact. that means more use of online undercover personas and sting operations. that means a more preventive approach that is looking to use tools that have been used across the criminal investigative spectrum for years including for things like preventing child pedophilia and child sex trafficking. easing those tools to prevent these things. -- using those tools to prevent these things. we also see a building coalitions with state and local law enforcement authorities. there were already authorities in every state to be going after unlawful private militias. they are not protected by the second amendment. state laws prohibit them. this is the time to use those laws. it is a time to work with lo

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biden was when asked about a potential conflict the justice department issued a statement that all dojomes to recusal, let's assess the situation and merrick garland, member of the senate judiciary committee, was asking questions, mike lee, good to have you back, senator. are you confident in what you heard today from the nominee that any investigation involving hunter biden will be fully transparent and we will get the end results if there are some. >> we would hope and expect nothing less, the nation's largest law firm, a very significant department of the us government. there were a number of things i would like to have heard. i would like to have heard more internal reflection with regard to the biden nominee's name to important positions in the department of justice. we've got two nominees, one who has been nominated for the associated attorney general, over the civil rights division. made some absolutely crazy comments that is made by a republican nominee would result in no chance of ever being confirmed. i was disappointed judge garland didn't take the opportunity to condemn tho

doj officials are talking about the idea of stealing cryptocurrency that's in crypto wallets around the an individual investor your eyebrow should go up here pay attention to what the threat it we're aware in the banking world but we haven't been as aware to those in the cyber world. your bitcoin wallet could be target might be a new one or a risk factor you'll have to think about going forward. this is clearly not something that will stop anytime soon. >> thank you very much, eamon. that is a perfect place to start with our next guest who closed a $120 million round led by the likes of google ventures and peter smith, the co-founder and ceo joins us now who is responsible for nearly 30% of all bitcoin transactions since 2012 thanks for being with us on short notice we just heard from eamon javers. i want to start on the cyber hack and then your latest round. eamon javers was telling us about a crypto hack that targeted digital wallets what is the overall threat to crypto investors is that increasing as we continue to see bitcoin rally higher and higher? [ inaudible ] i think, peter, we

but in actuality, people were begging for these numbers for months and this before the doj letter evenber. >> they say all politics. seems to be a line he has stuck to. does that hold anymore? >> right now the big thing you've seen is democrats come onboard and pushback. legislative democrats pushing back. 14 signed on to a statement calling for emergency powers to be rescinded. the democratic attorney general, letitia james put out -- sorry, the report that faulted the cuomo administration for underrepresenting how many died in nursing homes, how many nursing home residents died. so the politics line doesn't really hold water anymore. that being said, the governors spoded to speak at 2:15 today. we'll hear what he has to say. >> we're going to track that as well. thank you for sharing your insights with you. >> thank you for having me. >>> coming up, discussing the fate of the post master general and vowing to shake up the postal service. >>> and home-grown variants of the coronavirus is growing with more than half a dozen mutations in the u.s. so far. in aurora. (doorbell) rock on. t

and doj, for that matter, i have to believe. why would they take a case like this? would they do this? >> you know, i think, tucker, that it is part of what you are going to see. as a general theme that is running through all the things the biden administration is doing. i think you are going to see a lot of it from their justice department to release our progressive narratives, basically what they want you to believe is there trumped twitter trolls and white supremacists were out there, undermining american life at every turn and corrupting our election process, and this is just another piece of it. >> tucker: it does seem like the kind of thing that we should push back on, as hard as we possibly can. because once this precedent is set, how is this america in the way that we have experienced it? >> you're right, you know, it's a very short step from saying the fbi should monitor information about how you can vote, to what you can say in an election campaign, and again, i just think the government monitoring of stuff ought to alarm everyone. >> tucker: yeah. that's

the doj is making their case. you have a lot of the people that they charge saying i went there because of trump. in a political context, that is i believe carries weight. in terms of the case they're making politically. if the doj tried to pursue this criminally, isn't trump in better position in criminal case than political? >> yes. he is in a petter position. criminal case you have to prove criminal intent he criminally intended to have the violence. the rioting take place at the capitol. which is a higher bar than finding impeachment proceeding. people are very -- we live in a very criminal society. almost. people put things in terms of is it a crime or is it not? people put impeachment through this lens of is it a crime or is it not? it's a lower standard for impeachment. prosecutors wouldn't have to meet the same bar to find trump -- for his conduct. by any measure trump even if you don't use the word incite. they wouldn't have been at the capitol if it weren't for trump directing them to be there. he said j