and they're still part of doj. and doj definitely uses that office to try to control the president's office and control. they do that by control the information he gets. the only other thing i would do is make it a little more transparent. right now, a pardon applicant can submit his petition, but he doesn't get to see what doj says about it. which means doj gets to do this in secret. that, to me, is a problem. in any other legal proceeding, doj has to -- there's give and take. both sides get to see what the other side is saying and respond. so i think if the pardoned attorney is doj. it could be digs closed to the petitioner. and the petitioner can respond. and the party's advice to the president would be confidential. but at least the petitioner would have the opportunity. >> how does one apply for pardon? >> in the normal course, there is a formal pardon application form. and there is a commutation application form. and you download them. you fill them out and submit it to that office. >> how many does the offic

and i was and a former official of the doj and i deeply respect the doj, and its integrity is incredibly important, but again, when you have a deal with the doj, people in my world believe they live by it. and they didn't. and that undermines it just as much as when it's weaponized. the doj's word has to be just as solid as you know, swiss gold, and when it's not, it's problematic and you have to fix it, so, i don't think that's why the president did what he did. it is tragic with the biden family has been through over the years. though biden's demise was tragic, but, this wasn't a good process. it just wasn't. i mean i was there the whole way, and it wasn't a good process and now it's been corrected. >> have you spoken to hunter? >> not today. >> in the past 24 hours? >> i have not. i'm lucky enough. >> you are happy -- we are happy that you were able to join us but i could spend more time but i will free you from the clutches of cable television. >> always a pleasure, katy. >>> coming up, what the political cost of hunter biden's pardon might be. be. are e plans available in your area,

trump and his doj when after their critics when there were serious lawyers at the doj, and now you have very unserious people in pam bondi and kash patel who were coming in and promising to clear out all those individuals. now, i will also say if donald trump wanted to look at pictures of my kids and 49ers memes, he could've followed me on instagram. he did this, i believe, calling me out and calling shift out and say go after leakers to send a signal to his justice department prosecutors to look at us. they found nothing but that doesn't mean we shouldn't be concerned in a new guardrail less trump administration. >> our country has a little history with this. there is precedent, the fbi under j edgar herber, he loved to spy on his perceived domestic enemies. 1971, the house democratic leader called for hoover to resign amid reports he was wiretapping members of congress. take a listen. >> i believe the phone tapping is dangerous. it can only chill the free discourse we must have if we are to continue as a free society. nowhere is free speech more vital than in the halls of congress. it

they are still a part of doj and doj definitely uses that office to try to control the presidential exercise of the pardon power by controlling the information he gets. it's the only other thing i would do is make it more transparent. right now, a pardon applicant can submit a petition, but he doesn't get to see what doj says about it and can't respond to it. meaning doj gets to do this in secret. to me, that's a problem. in any other legal proceeding, doj, both sides get to see with the other is saying and respond. if the pardon attorney was independent of doj, the recommendation could be disclosed to the petitioner and the petitioner could respond. and then the pardon attorney advice to the president would be confidential. at least the petitioner would have the opportunity to see what the doj is saying about the case. host: how does one apply for a pardon? guest: there's a normal application at a commutation application and you get it from the department of the attorney, you fill it out and submit it. guest: how many does the office get every year? guest: thousands, thousands. i would say

joyce, again, taking off my glasses to talk to an attorney, specifically from the doj.ant to ask you if you're a u.s. attorney at this point, how are you squaring the idea that on one hand, the doj is continuing to prosecute people for offenses related to january 6th and on the other hand, donald trump has already said that he is looking to pardon all the january sixers within the first few minutes in office. >> so the pardons that donald trump is contemplating are very different sort of creature from the pardons that joe biden has just issued. you know, prosecutors don't always love it when someone receives a pardon after they've obtained a conviction. but there are very strong standards that have been used for evaluating these cases involving perhaps most importantly whether or not someone who is up for consideration would pose a threat, a danger to the community, if they were released f they were pardoned. that's the issue that donald trump seems to be willing to set aside here. these are not people who have shown remorse. these are not people who have reintegrated w

went after their critics when there were serious lawyers at the doj. now, you have very unserious people in pam bondi and cache patel who are coming in and promising to clear out all of those individuals. now, i will also say, if donald trump wanted to look at pictures of my kids, and 49ers' means, he could've just followed me on instagram. but, he did this, i believe, calling me out and calling schiff out, saying to go after leakers, to send a signal to his justice to cuban prosecutors to look at us. they found nothing, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't be concerned in a new guardrail list trump administration. >> our country has a little bit of history for this, there is president of this, fbi under its first director, j edgar hoover, he loved to spy on his perceived domestic enemies. in 1971, the house democratic leader hale boggs called for hoover to resign amid reports he was wiretapping members of congress. take a listen to this. >> i believe the fight on wiretapping is just as dangerous as the fight because it can only chill the amount of free

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i do not work for the doj. i'm not involved in prosecution. >> and i'm not trying to assign you responsibility. there are things we can agree on. it seems to me, and i'll just leave it at this. i think it's a simple thing. i don't understand -- and we have seen it in so many ways. it's the fundamental part of this weaponization. i just don't -- the american people see these incidents when they seem to be made for cnn. when people with certain political persuasions or ideas are targeted, the s.w.a.t. team goes out and raids them in their homes. it's totally disproportionate. that must stop. i will guarantee you it's going to stop in the next administration. 15 seconds for you, mr. biggs. >> thank you. mr. chairman. so for that reason, i won't even engage in a diatribe or ask questions. i will ask that the 1994 congressional record from the house speech about this face act passage be admitted to the record. >> my apologies, without o. so ordered. i recognize the ranking member for five minutes of questioning. >>

can the doj boys cut and make a dent in the debt to the tune of $2 trillion? they even begin? >> griff, absolutely not can the doj boys do this. because they need congress to do this for them. i mean, with all due respect to elon musk and others, let's not forget doj is not a government department, it's not a government agency. it's a separate group that is going to be advising the president and making a bunch of recommendations where can money can be cut. but in the end, griff, this has to get past congress and that's completely different. >> that's an important point you're making, gene. you're saying they lack kind of the authority to do what they want to do. we can show our viewers -- we call it the christmas wish list, if you will, of where they want to cut can, starting with the irs, the department of defence, many of the agencies that you've already heard about. we'll put them up here, just scroll it on the screen. you see there, expired programs, federal workforce, expediting government projects, modernizing, going after government i.t., and the list g

doj and the fbi people looking at mar-a-lago. what do next and bluntly whether or not to carry out the first ever search of a former president's. they had been arguing for weeks about this and they going to this meeting it devolves into a shouting match. they're screaming at each. they don't trust each other. and the head of the washington field office for the fbi is named stephen don tano. he spoke to me on the record. he in the end of the meeting, he just says, i am not searching mar-a-lago. we're rushing this. and his it wasn't he was in tank for trump. what i found that these career people tend to be biased towards their own institution, towards their tribe. and he arguing if we do this search where it's we're into trump's m.o. we're into his conspiracy theory of the evil jackbooted fbi searching marla, go on the other side. there were more senior fbi officials and most of the just department officials who were like he has had a year. he has had more time than an average american gets. we have to uphold the rule of law and. t

the information over, the doj hemmed and hawed it's really hard not to say the doj fumbled this one and badly. >> so, the report says that the committee didn't find evidence of federal sex trafficking, which is the most likely federal charge for gaetz. because even though gaetz was responsible for transporting the sex workers across state lines, none of the women were under 18 at the time of the travel, and the commercial transactions involving sex were all voluntary. so typically the justice department only brings those kinds of charges if there's coercion involved or if there's a minor or if there's some threat of force, reportedly. why wouldn't they turn this information over to the congress so it could do what it needs to do sincely at the time gaetz was still a member, not only was he a member, we know he was in line to be the attorney general. we don't know. they don't release the long reports and decides not to bring charges as why not. the standard for a criminal conviction is proof beyond a reasonable doubt. that's higher than the substantial evidence that this report found

. >> how many prosecutions are there at the doj?at i can speak to this particular case which is hunter biden which has the last name of the president, who i just said there were political opponents were very clear and very vocal about going after his son, i just laid out multiple people who are part of that system, who have worked in the justice system or currently do so and have been very clear on how they feel about this particular case -- the cases against hunter biden. >> the judge said it was not political pressure when it came to the plea deal. they said this was a process issue. basically they had to agreements in one. basic questioning of this case that both lawyers could not really answer the questions of. so is he not undermining the judge and the judicial system he promised would be independent? >> i just talked about the deputy chief who said he was responsible for approving the charges and not prosecuting requests. i just also quoted him and what he said. and there are others who have said, former white house counsel sa

the scathing report from doj. nick valencia, to bring you in. what do you make of the police chief's response to this? >> yeah, it's not just the scathing report that's that's shocking it's also the response from the city. you know, we've read that city attorney statement, which basically assumes that there's going to be no consequences for them refusing to enter this consent decree, at least in the immediate but really, what's shocking to me are the cases that were highlighted of excessive force. you have an instance highlighted by the doj civil rights division of a man who was slammed to the ground for littering. another instance of a man with reportedly with mental health issues who was trying to steal a $2 soft drink from a gas station and during that instance, there was 12 squad cars that responded. nine police officers. and that man was reportedly repeatedly tased and then perhaps the most shocking, pamela is the story of an eight year old who had mental health issues. behavioral issues. 911 was called by hi

we did that at one place in the fbi, mainly, and a little bit of doj. just think about what you can do, if you can do it all at once, at dod, at the cia, at the doj, after the fbi, at treasury, at state, and the list goes on. >> basically, the idea of using government documents in your possession for official purposes, as a tool of essentially selective leaking for propaganda. >> yeah, i mean, his view is that the domestic enemy is literally the enemy, right? that there is not a meaningful distinction in many ways between a foreign threat and a domestic one. and so, when you take that belief, when you believe -- he wrote a book called "government gangsters." he is talking all the time on these podcasts, and the argument of the book is very literal. the american government is a kind of model operation that is directed at republicans and donald trump, that is designed to direct his own power and keep the deep state in power, personally. he even has a literal enemies list in the appendix where he lists 50 odd people who he believes are part of this nefario

california was a leader in a doj before doj was doj."eresting because three years ago california had 100 billion-dollar budget surplus, now it's $55 billion deficit. common sense is no math whizz but 155 billion-dollar negative swing is the opposite of a doj, it's actually the department of government in inefficiency in california in three years spent $24 billion on homelessness. but failed to track the money, and the outcome saw the money go , god knows where, and the number of homeless increased dramatically, that is not doj, that is a government of stupidity and the california bullet train, l.a. toward san francisco in three hours the project was approved in 2008 to be completed in 2020, it is almost 2025 and the bullet train is decades behind schedule and 100 billion over budget. that is not doj, that is department of government boondoggle or he. let's bring in... watch this! common sense would ask again is he serious? >> it's a joke, he's a joke, this is totally preposterous, to add to the fact that you just laid out there quite cor

take that as an investigation that the civil rights division does in the doj.happens to that kind of investigation when someone like dhillon is in charge? >> whew, so the thing about the civil rights division is its job is to protect us all. and anybody who serves in that incredibly important seat is to use the power of the office to protect people and you can't think of anything more basic than being protected from abuse of the state, physical violence, sexual violence. this is a department that engages in investigations across the country. it wasn't just worcester massachusetts. in several cities, police departments, rural and urban, it has done deep investigations into whether the patterns and practices, it is so widespread, the civil rights violations, that the whole department is subject to oversight and making promises and agreeing to consent decrees and other kinds of obligations that it will then report back on in terms of making progress to protect people. if you are not safe from law enforcement, who protects you from them? the federal government and

. >> the doj with respect to that? >> maybe we should ask the biden administration the same question. there's a lot that happens, keep in mind the doj was weapon eyes, the fbi, there's not a camera in here or reporter who can say anything different, what we want to do and what donald trump wants to do and what kash patel wants to do is get the doj doing their job again. the fbi doing their job keeping america safe. and put the crime, going after the terrorist organization to come after us before that. >> a discussion about that? >> we did discuss ways to fix the fbi. kash patel and i agree that agents in the field are doing a phenomenal job. it's not a black eye or attack on the fbi as a whole. it's about getting the mission focused again and that requires an understanding of what the role is and being focused on that mission. we had those discussions but no one wants to dismantle them, just want to get them focused on the job. a target. >> targeted -- >> obviously christopher wray, as far as the list of people, i don'

the doj ad tech case stayed put in virginia. in the long-running state's generic drugs price-fixing case finally had a breakthrough when it returned to connecticut where it was filed. and so again, while i don't speak on behalf of the attorneys general, i feel comfortable that they would not object to me saying, thank you so much. we needed this for litigation against big tech which we have focused on for years. and his past counsel for the state of wisconsin on many of the big tech cases, if not all of them, there is only so much i can say about them. but i can say it is remarkable, we have talked about it before, how these cases were brought by a huge groups of attorneys general in the federal government. at five cases against google with google search having a combined 52 attorneys general litigating with the u.s. department of justice, facebook, amazon and apple, all filed by large reps of bipartisan states new york and the apple case is led by new jersey, if senator booker wants to give them a shout out. with continued dili

the doj failed to timely stcomp with several related document request by congress.of congress with grheavily redacted version of some but not all documents demanded and offering members limited in person viewing his response to repeated requests after months of delay by the doj. as i prepare to introduce my colleagues for the remarks in conclusion i would like to point out while many in the media and american public have been trying to break down public colluding with rushed when the election is a ton of actual evidence of real misconduct that the same people have been attempting to completely sweep under the rug. i believe equal scales of justice that no one is above the law that includes anyone regardless of last name and even people at the highest levels of doj and fbi especially when misconduct is committed in the performance of the duties while trying to take down elected officials and candidates. no official to overwhelm their own objectivity and responsible performance of their duties. second special counsel must be appointed in transparency and accountabilit

doj public safety and justice. the first issue that comes up is base funding at the department of interior. >> i will make sure that mr. cole has that. >> secondly though, the department of justice funding is incredibly important. i know i talked about that a long time. grant funding is incredibly important. our comps program which falls strengthening capacity to exercise special tribal criminal law enforcement. our office on violence juagains women is funding tribal court systems. exercise special tribal criminal jurisdiction. it is funding tribal saa's . a lot of the savannas work was increasing uses, so now you can get money from the federal government to do your mmip funding. in the new healing in response team initiative, they came up with $2 million to dedicate to the minnesota women's sexual assault program to inform healing for tribal communities. we have a request for $10 million so that they may continue to work across the country. so that is on the doj side. they are not just tolerant months we are looki

doj has done a terrible job and i'll make distinction between doj overhead and people in the field. i don't believe anybody in the field is looking to cover up a conspiracy to assassinate donald trump. secondly, it would be career suicide, the guy will be president in a month. no case briefings after butler, had to wait to find out what went on there, congressional hea hearings, etcetera. they don't get pressure because we have not had a functioning executive. >> laura: we're not blaming agents, although clearly a problem with agents on the scene in butler and problem with coordination, a lot of problems. agents are great, sometimes they are not great, they might be wonderful people, they were not equipped to do the job for whatever reason. that being said, to not give american people any information about these two individuals, i don't like it. it is why phillip:el don't have faith in the institutions that we do want, not might, we do want to believe in these institutions. you can't blame people. we get manifestos right away in certain cases, the other case, his phones, he has a lo

so the doj civil rights division does not just handle voting civil rights issues. it is supposed to fight on behalf of american citizens to ensure that their voting rights are protected. so i, sadly, foresee a four year suspension of any type of advocacy on behalf of americans when it comes to voting rights. >> so, what happens? our civil rights organizations like the aclu preparing the pushback? because tradition holds that someone in this position is charged with doing exactly what you say. it is civil rights of all americans. so, do we expect a lot of pushback here? can there be losses? >> yes, and that is the reason why people should really sit down and look at organizations like the aclu and appreciate what they have been doing. it has not just been let's guard ourselves and prepare for what's happening. they've been fighting since the first trump administration. the aclu has led the battle and won many wars when it has come to the muslim ban, and the draconian immigration policies that were part of the first administration for trump. now they are preparing al

we are wanting to do and what donald trump and what president wants to do and kash wants to do get doj doing job first, getting the fbi, keeping america safe, letting agents do their job and stay out of politics and put the crimes and -- and going after the terrorist organizations coming after us before they look at their political folks. >> senator, did you have discussion about plans -- >> yeah, we did discuss ways to fix the fbi. first of all, kash and i both agree the agents in the field are doing a phenomenal job. this isn't a black eye or an attack on the fbi as a whole. this is about once again getting them mission focused again and what that requires us is cleaning the hoover building. understand what their role is and being focused on that mission. i think kash can do that and we did have those discussions but as far as dismantling the fbi, nobody wants to completely dismantle them, we just want to get them back focus on the job. a target? no. [inaudible] >> well, obviously director wray would be fired. that's obvious. as far as the people, no, i don't think anybody can do tha

the doj doesn't have jurisdiction or control over this case.n has postponed sentencing as these filings have been coming in. what happens next? >> what i'm looking for here is what danny will day -- the district attorney's office will say in response. what trump's lawyers are saying is you have to dismiss this case. look at what the doj has done and they have opinions which are not binding in new york state, but they have opinions saying the constitution actually requires that the cases be dismissed against donald trump. and, again, that's not binding on the state, but that's doj's interpretation of what the constitution requires. obviously the state has to go by the federal constitution as well. so trump's lawyers also said, if you disagree with us and you're going to take the position that this can just be put on hold and then you can resume the case once donald trump's term ends, if you're going to take that position, judge, we want a two-week stay basically to pause this case so we can go to federal court and ask a federal court to overrule

on the east coast, time for hot topic of the hour doj senate caucus leader joni ernst out with a report finding remote work running rampant in america's federal agencies hillary vaughn live from capitol hill as they look for areas to cut back on spending, hillary. >> good morning, maria. no more phoning it in, federal workers will soon have to actually show up to the office, to go into work, after this new report from senator joni ernst found if you don't count security guards and maintenance staff less than 1% federal workers go into the office work 40 hours a week on a daily basis republicans say that is going to change, 90% federal employees work remotely 6% in person full-time, the average occupancy of federal buildings at 12%, corralling workers back to if office key part of elon musk and vivek ramaswamy's plan to make government efficient but effectively downsize they think if employees show up will leave on their own. >> something i have been pushing on is giving those federal workers, back into the offices, or eliminating the buildings they occupy federal office buildings cost u

job at doj. bill barr readily appointed, you know, know, extracurricular probes of donald trump.the same thing here. and the mere relentless digging, the subpoena of personal records, email, telephone records, conversations, can put people, you know, under a very painful and extensive microscope that will make their lives terrible. and will cost them money to defend, will put their reputation into play, and will ultimately achieve what i think one of trump's broader goals is, is to try to take out the legs of every single investigation that look the into his multiple abuses of power during his presidency and after. he's done that consistently from the moment he, you know, he came under various probes. and i think, you know, it doesn't need to be an indictment to cause pain for these people. the investigation alone can really be miserable. >> mary trump and tim o'brien are going to stay with me. we'll be right back with more on this conversation after a short break. say christmas. christmas! when you want gifts to express a lifetime of love - we've spent a lifetime crafting them.

just releasing this bombshell report saying that trump's doj, donald trump's doj, improperly subpoenaed phone records and emails of two members of congress and their 43 staff members in 2017. we should note both republicans and democrats, as well as several reporters swept up in this. one of those staffers is trump's own pick to run the fbi kash patel. when he was a staffer on the house intel committee, the subpoenas are related to alleged leaks of classified information to the media, including cnn, during congressional investigations into what was called crossfire hurricane. you may remember that as the code name of the fbi's investigation into connections between trump's campaign and russia during the 2016 election. i want to go straight to evan perez now on this. tell us why these ig findings are such a big deal. evan. well, this is a much bigger, much broader sweep of members of congress and their staff than we knew about. >> i mean, we've previously heard from adam schiff and from eric swalwell, two representatives. schiff is about to be a senator of california, and we had heard th

the doj has done a terrible job and, again, i'm going to make the distinction between doj's overhead and the people in the field i don't believe anybody in the field is looking to cover up a conspiracy to assassinate donald trump. first of all i don't think they would do that secondly career suicide the guy is going to be president in a month. no case briefings right after butler. we had to wait to find out what went on there. it took all that time. we took congressional hearings. et cetera. they just don't seem to get any pressure. it's my stipulation it's because we really haven't had a functioning executive. >> laura: of course, we are not blaming the agents. although clearly a problem with the agents on the scene in butler and problem with the coordination. there's a lot of problems there while i'm like well, the agents are all great sometimes they are not great, paul. they might be wonderful people but they weren't equipped to do the job for whatever reason. that having been said. but, to not give the american people any information about these two individuals, i don't like it a

he knows how the doj and how the fbi corrupted the whole damn place.e has d that is why they don't want him. in there, mark. i will go furthermore, i think this brings an important component i don't think we've had in and fbi director before.h kash served the beginning of his career on thhee other side. he served as a public defender, defending criminals against thae fbi and law enforcement agencies. so he transferred from a public defender, thin into the doj as prosecutor here to at a timewe we need people to stand both sides of the issue if we are fbi going to destroy the fbi whe we get a situation in this couny again where justice should bee blblind. that is how it was set up by the founders of this country.an if you don't have a solid,untr reliable justice system called joke your whole damn country falls apart. if it wasn't for president trump winning, what started with the russia hoax back in the day, campaign gimmick to try toeali falsely accuse trump dealingd re with russia and republicansling dealing with russia.al ended up, mark, you talk abou

all right, so this administration, through this new doj's effort, wants to simultaneously dramatically reduce the federal workforce and make a rejection of equity its policy. and so when you combine those two things, what is the concern about the impact on black workers, specifically, who are overrepresented, represented in the federal civilian workforce you know, thank you for having me first of all, it's no doubt that the actions that this administration plan to take would disproportionately affect black workers especially in the federal government we make up about 18% of the federal workforce. >> you know, and about 13, 14% of the entire nation's population. so when you start taking away 75% of the federal workforce, you know, that's going to definitely impact black workers and black communities. >> i want you to listen here to the soon to be deputy white house chief of staff for policy. this is stephen miller. this is, um i wouldn't call it a threat. he calls it a promise. once trump is inaugurated when donald trump is inaugurated on january 20th, and that new golden age of america

she is donald trump's pick to lead the doj civil rights division. a branch of the justice department new york times describes like this. the division and forces voting rights laws, investigates police departments, and brings charges for violations of people's civil rights. the divisions on website proudly states this . the pulled the civil rights of all people in the united states. it is a solemn and important responsibility. if there is a through line in the vehicle work over the last few years she has supported donald trump over anything and everyone else. maritimes rights this. she has been a conservative activist is so devoted to mr. trump but was willing to attack not only democrats but also fellow republicans. she was also the cochairwoman in 2020 of a group lawyers for trump that challenged the results of that year's presidential election. here she is in an appearance on fox news november 5, 2020 while votes were still being counted. president joe biden would not be declared the winner for another two days. >> in philadelphia you have electio

final word. >> well political bias at the doj is laughable.biden inc pardon. wait for more including jim biden. liz: interesting and there's a story he wants to preemptively pardon liz cheney and adam schiff. for what? that's biden. ford thank you for joining us good to see you. this story, the senate getting in gear to enact trump's mandate for the american people to fix america. what does the senate majority leader doing? look whose with us former home depot ceo we love bob nardelli. stay with us he's so smart. stay right there. >> we will make america safe, strong, prosperous, powerful and free again. and i'm asking every citizen all across our land to join me in this nobel and righteous endeavor that's what it is. this holiday season... -kevin? -catherine! all aboard the freedom unlimited! kevin... kevin? kevin... kevin!!! and kevin - uh, i mean, macaulay - take a very special trip to the mall where anything... come and get your little kev! is... cashbackable!!! -really? -yeah. anything is cashbackable!!! chill. sorry! 'tis the season to c

mean for doj going forward? might they have some new data? new evidence that may bring some new action in this case? >> that is a really good question, and so far what we have learned from leaks over the doj investigation, which has been nearly a half of a decade, have indicated the doj might have access to far more information than the ethics committee did. earlier this summer we reported that the ethics committee was upset with the justice department for not providing more of the evidence and information that they had obtained through their investigatory process in this case. "the new york times" obtained one spreadsheet that showed a vast array of women and men who were involved with the payments indicating that perhaps hundreds of witnesses participated in a grand jury investigation and grand jury proceedings about this case. it's really unclear what the doj is going to do if anything with some of the raw materials that the ethics committee is likely going to hand over. now that gaetz is no longer under cons

it makes you nauseous as you think about how the doj can target specific individuals.ed about how over 40% of the market cap of the s&p 500 is under doj investigation. there's just been so much overreach it's completely unnecessary. but in regards to these criminals, i know what eric adams is talking about. he's talking about those migrants who are committing crimes here in new york but i mean, let's be honest. every single one of these illegal migrants they committed a crime coming into the country so they are already by default criminals and when president trump did that meet the press interview a week or two ago, i forget exactly when it was, he was asked whether or not he was going to look to deport all or as many of these individuals as possible and his response was i think we have to and it's true. because what is the point of having laws if you selectively decide you're not going to enforce those laws? the laws are there for a reason. it's to keep our country healthy. it's to keep our country free of crime or to the best of our ability minimize crime. these are

and during that time, lds became the alternative doj.knew the department of justice under trump was just not reliable as an enforcer of civil rights or constitutional protections. so we had to fill the breach, along with many of our allies in the field, and we are prepared to do that again, to be the surrogate department of justice. as we will not abandon the civil rights laws that we have fought so hard for for over 80 years. we know that these protections are as necessary as ever. but this time around it is equally important that we leverage all law and power and processes to ensure that these anti-democratic efforts, these corrupt actions and abuses of power are stymied right out the gate. we have already seen some winds and some evidence of that. we have to not only be the surrogate doj, we have to also be b disruptors of the second administration. as you noted in your excellent op-ed, that project 2025 is attempting to really upend everything we have constructed for a multiracial democracy to succeed. so we are prepared, we are read

they called it all that highly damaging to the doj's independence.n unfair attack on the institution that keeps us safe and now? >> does the president believe now and agree with president-elect trump that the justice system has been weaponized for political purposes and that it needs root and branch reform? >> no. read the president's statement. seriously, read the president's statement. he says he believes in the department of justice. he does. he says it in his statement. he believes -- he also believes that war politics infected the process and it led to a miscarriage of justice. he believes his son was unfairly targeted. >> laura: she should have submitted her resignation letter today. and she would have, i think if she had believed what they told her to say months ago that biden would not barred hunter. but, look, if you were in on this from the beginning you just keep the lie going and then you try to have it both ways. >> the president does believe in the justice system. and the department of justice. and he also believes that his son was sing