in the china and in the back section, case studies of first ladies you'll see dolley madison. dolly madison served for the widowed -- the widowed thomas jefferson. he also, his daughter would also serve as his hostess periodically, but so did mrs. madison, who was the secretary of state's wife, because in mixed company at the time had you to have a hostess. you could not entertain ladies unless there was a hostess. there was a real need to have a woman in the white house to perform that function, because so much even now, so much of washington life is carried on not on the floor of the house, not on the floor are of the senate, not in official places but at parties. informal gatherings where you can talk in a calmer more casual manner, and so the first lady helps -- all the women of washington, really, are responsible for keeping those networks open and that life happening. >> so is that sort of the point of showing the dress? that there's much more meaning behind the dress? >> there is more meaning behind the dress. one we show it because it's beautiful and people love them,