it gets resolved and they go to the press to talk about how they worked but dolly johnson gets the jobd is celebrated in headlines all about the country they see her full name and he is one of the few samples of a cook that leaves the white house and trades on her own name. it sounds like they do not discourage her with this whole thing which i have a whole different perspective on that. we look forward to continuing the conversation, not tonight, not right now, but you ask questions and move othequestione rest of the program. thank you so much. [applause]

she talked about working for the harrisons but dolly johnson gets the job and is celebrated in headlines all across the country. she is one of the few examples of a took who leaves the white house and trade on her own name to establish a second career. you don't see that a lot with african-americans. >> host: it sounds like they don't disparage her as much. i have a whole different perspective on that but they tried to disparage us and put us down but it sounds like they talked about her like a human being. >> guest: somewhat. they dwell on her looks a lot so you feel like it has been written by a teenage boy but they recognize her much more than they do others. >> definitely looking forward to continuing the conversation, not tonight, not right now, we will let you guys ask questions and move on with the rest of the proom. -- afternoon. carry on. >> the question is how did i get the recipes and did i test them? >> can you use the microphone at the back of auditorium? thank you. >> guest: it was a combination. i reached out to several presidential chefs and asked if i could use their rec