fact, i, myself, only heard at the meeting that our problems at do lohrs repark was a $70 -- at dolores park was a $70,000 problem. so we have a problem of $70,000, you know, why not go to the community and say, we've got this problem, what are your ideas for how to solve this problem? maybe that's what the community was hoping they would have gotten, and now, they were pretty much -- i mean, they didn't, and now they're pretty much stuck with an idea that was generated top down from the department down to the community. so it puts us in a very difficult -- it actually puts us between a rock and a hard place because we are at the 11th hour having to deal with how do we meet the $70,000 deficit, how do we address it? and at the same time, we're in a situation where within the next month or two, we have to look at how do we address perhaps additional deficits with the -- within the next fiscal year, so it's -- it's a very difficult place for all of us to be in. and i think what we're going to have to do is for -- i think we're going to have to take a step back and we're going to have to explor

i think it's brought more intention to both the challenges and opportunities at dolores park, we shouldn'tlose sight of the fact that we're on the verge of $15 million in capital investment in this beautiful jewel. i think we try not to get too defensive about sort of process and outreach issues because, you know, i can assure you the staff is working as hard as we can and we're in the business of trying to provide clean, safe, fun parks for everyone. we're -- we value community input and want community input. if there were certain missteps, which it sounds like primarily, a couple of neighborhoods, a couple of communities around the park, that's a learning experience for us. i think since that initial outset, however, and one of the reasons we chose to calendar this as a separate agenda item and have an extensive discussion here was to continue the dialogue and out of respect for the people here. i think we, at a staff level, learned a lot about some on the ground concerns and frustrations around the neighborhood that i think will be valuable. my personal opinion is that the worldy not co

we witnessed where people in the mission dolores park were upset about us putting vendors in their park for the parks department to generate money. under this situation, the park department will have to pay something like $32,000 we don't have. these neighbors are going to be taxed, which in my mind is a parcel tax. we're told we can't put out a parcel tax because the voters won't take it. how will these people look at this, when they're asking to give $100 or whatever it is per year for 10 years or however long it's supposed to last. secondly, or thirdly, or lastly, or whatever, there's a whole other bureaucracy out here that's going to charge us $743 -- $743,000. and two administrators that are going to cost us $160,000. this money should come to us, we can do this. so i have a real problem with that. president buell: let me weigh in and disagree with the distinguished vice chairman. it's a parcel tax bu

of course this also -- i must also comment on what happened to dolores park, all that discussion we may approaching the time that raising money from parking may be easier and sweeter for you to do. president buell texas pot -- president buell: it's not easier or sweeter to raise money for anything. >> i want to support this thing, i don't know if it's enough, why should you be less than anybody else, especially if there's a waiting list for the parkers, you know you're probably not charging enough. thank you very much. >> is paul here? paul robbins? would anyone else like to comment on this item? seeing none, public comment is closed. president buell: is there a motion? >> i make a motion. president buell: those in favor? opposed? hearing no opposition, it's approved. >> item nine. >> i'm here to for the discussion and possible action to approve the selection of twirl and dip soft serve to operate at big reck in golden gate park. i do want to tell you a little bit about twirl and dip's menu. they offer three flavors of soft serve ice cream served daily in cones and cups, the flavors cha

seated playground, this is in dolores park and every morning it has to be checked by city workers foried in the sand. which brings me to the seven new tracks on the ground needles everywhere. some capt. and some bonds. the amount of use needles i found in this one location and was crazy. it's amazing that just a simple act of walking around the city and discovering use syringes just lying around. everything i showed you was founded just a few hours on the streets of san francisco and looking at the ground has curious that. in san francisco stanley roberts kron 4 news. >> to of a comet tour story idea for a stanley e-mail us at peoplebehavingbadly@kron4.com. is there anything forty-niners greg singletary can do to save his job? the giants worked out during a sentencing rotation and going to live report from at&t park starting next. >> and to release up about 08 ha www.kron4.com check on this link section we'll find a link to the new preliminary report by the ntsb that suggests that pg&e had the wrong number for a much pressure december of gaslight could withstand. be sure to visit our

this is in dolores park and every morning it has to be checked by city workers for syringes buried inrings me to this set of muni tracks. on the ground needle's everywhere, some capped, some not. the amount of used needles i found at this location was crazy. it is amazing that just the simple act of walking around the city one can discover used syringes just lying around. every needle i showed you was found in just a few hours of strolling the streets of san francisco and looking at the ground. how scary is that? in san francisco, stanley roberts, kron 4 news. >> of a weird and take a break, as we go live look here at the cemetery ridge the scene of the tropics but it will be a hot spot in will be a problem for your morning commute echo bit shirley to explain.

this is in dolores park and every morning it has to be checked by city workers for syringes buried ine ground needle's everywhere, some capped, some not. the amount of used needles i found at this location was crazy. it is amazing that just the simple act of walking around the city one can discover used syringes just lying around. every needle i showed you was found in just a few hours of strolling the streets of san francisco and looking at the ground. how scary is that? in san francisco, stanley roberts, kron 4 news. >> taking a look at back roads in santa clara. there could be a solution in a $10 registration fee. next month voters will decide whether they want a pay at registration fee part of the money would go to improving roads repairing potholes repaving streets. >> three men are accused of stealing more than $158,000 from 196 people. they are suspected of installing a skimming device on a gas pump. the device was set up to capture account numbers and pins of the customers who used the pump. investigators have located at least 11 more skimming devices that the defendants alleg