cronkite, some people like brinkley, you know, not a lot a lot of people liked but nbc and cbs were dom nants. now you have so many more media outlets that people have a lot more choices. some of them ideological choices. some are stylistic. ted turner started cnn. people laughed about it. thought it was a crazy idea. people watching all news station on cable and it turn ed out to e a pre-cursor of all that's come since. >> i'm going to venture there will be a time. there's a lot of agreement. there's more agreement between red states and blue states than amongst men and women than young people and old people than americans and people across the world. part of the partisanship. we all agree that, i don't know that clayton is a good pitcher or it's just when they become controversial and become part of this partisanship that it all breaks down. i think there may come a time when it's not, you see this when like war happens. people rally around the flag and we stop thinking of ourselves as red state and blue state mem americans. it will revert to the things that most of us kind of agree upon. t