-- not bring back defend doma.ut he also was reported last week, has been courting unsuccessfully maggie gallagher who was head of the national organization for marriage, who made those horrific homophobic ads of lightning striking america if gay people were in partnerships or got married. so it's incredible hypocrisy. and i wonder what someone like paul singer's son said to him. romney can do a lot more damage than is going to happen, would have happened in new york state, if same-sex marriage hadn't passed. >> and i wonder, the thing that surprises me is that you read something like dick cheney lobbying for same-sex marriage. >> quietly. >> quietly in maryland. ken mehlman, former chair of the republican party, being integral to that effort in new york state and other states working on same-sex marriage rights. afer, americans for equal rights, the group that has been mobilizing high-profile republicans, really high-profile republicans. not pundits, former elected officials. people high-ranking in the party. >> t

but that many congressmen pose the question, how does doma affect our servicemembers. and the answers, and, we can go through the range of military than the feds are not afforded, the emotional support, but i think we are going to find that outserve as was many military organizations are going to have strong statements, going to provide a strong argument for the repeal of doma. one of the things beyond just train them went to realize there are things we can do it now. and i think that a lot of people haven't caught on to that because the report of the working group releases which is so long, people did realize that. people want to talk about the assignment. when they research it and it says we can do this to ensure we can get the surround doma right now. for us, we will be going on a two-pronged attack. we need to go with these loopholes right now. you should introducing this into the units now, give us this, and also you have a general doma repeal but there are plenty of actions that can be taken right now around doma. >> just through -- >> just through directed dod a

administration did the right thing in pulling back from their defense of doma. we're making a lot of progress, and invariably something goes in front of the court i hope what david boyes has put togetrnd tedlslsen. >> let's tete t te presio ntpsint amam u wu wayay kearneyey today saiai he has not changed his position on this. >> yeah. >> now i know there is some other data out here from that gallon -- gallup poll, which is that 78% of liberals support gay marriage 65% of moderates support gay major -- marriage. so if you had to give president obama advice in the middle of an election should the president reverse his decision? >> i think he should do what he thinks -- well, i think he should do the right thing. as dr. king reminded us, it's always the right time to do the right thing and stand up on principlement you can't run the 90-yard dark as i said on equality, marriage is marriage f. we believe in full equality for some americans regardless of gender and ethnicity we need to believe that. >> what would you suggest? >> to do what's in the best interest of hi

working on these issues as far as we know. >> he hasn't and is mortified by embarrassment because domahis watch and a lot of support from so-called liberal democrats in congress, is the reason even in the states now where same sex marriage is legal, those couples can't have social security benefits and other benefits, that does real damage. i think he's too embarrassed to do it. he didn't mention doma in his 1000 page auto biography. >> frank rifch, the piece is mostly about democratics and the bill clinton stuff is fascinating. thank you. >> we will be right back. ♪ oh! [ baby crying ] ♪ what started as a whisper ♪ every day, millions of people choose to do the right thing. ♪ slowly turned to a scream ♪ there's an insurance company that does that, too. liberty mutual insurance. responsibility. what's your policy? ♪ amen, omen should we be letting him p-l-a-y with our t-a-b-l-e-t? [ mom ] i think it's fine. it's the new element from at&t so it's w-a-t-e-r proof. cool. what else does it d-o? it's fast. it's 4g lte. 4-g-l-t-e? mhhmm. i think it's time to stop spelling? ok. a-y. [ male an

. >> one of things beyond doma after realized there are many things to do right now. and i think a lot of people, that report that the working group released in the pentagon which was along the people realize, when they research in the report it directly said we can do this around trying to right now but i think for us with outserve will going on a two-pronged attack with need to go with these loopholes right now and you should be introducing this into the units now, give us this, and also you have a general tend to repeal but there are plenty of action that can be taken right now around doma. >> just through -- >> just through direct dod action. there would be no congressional action needed. those actions can be taken now. [inaudible] >> i'm not sure. i think the our political. i think that we got, they want to take baby steps on issue, and i think that maybe we will build a take baby steps if these issues keep bubbling up like i think it will. so i think, and i think which is in general the media has caught on the fact that here in this report, and a small part of a

so it's quite possible that doma will be struck down before it gets -- doma requires states to recognize marriages that are performed in other states even if it's not legal in your state. it's going to be interesting. i think clearly things are moving. you look at the polls now. there's a slight plurality supporting gay marriage. that was not the case three, five years ago. certainly not when prop 8 passed. things are moving. it's part of the political gestalt changing a little bit. >> bottom line is, when can marriages start again, if at all? >> interesting question. it looks like the stay on the ruling will end on february 28th. which would mean theoretically they could begin on february 28th. you can be sure backers of prop 8 will go back into court, to the supreme court if necessary, to get that stay put back in place so there won't be any more same-sex marriages until this is finally resolved. >> the lone dissenting judge was a bush appointee? >> randy submit, bush-appointed in 2007, a mormon from pocatello. his dissent was narrow. he basically said, i'm not so sure there wasn't a n

saying that he supports s-598, which is barbara feinstein's bill which is a bill that would appeal domato appeal the so-called defense of marriage act. and he's been openly supportive in new york, and i think he'll be equally supportive in maryland when they send a bill approving marriage equality and the governor actually signs it. here's the difference between chris christie and president obama. lawrence, you know this well. we live in a representative democracy. we are not in a monarchy and we certainly are not in a dictatorship despite what republicans say. so unless congress sends the president of the united states a bill appealing doma or legalizing same-sex marriage, there is nothing the president can do, other than saying flat out, which is what governor christie wants, i support marriage equality. meanwhile, governor christie, when the duly elected representatives of the people of the state of new jersey passed in the house and the senate sent him a bill legalizing marriage equality when he, as governor, had the ability with the stroke of a pen to do exactly the thing he's crit

the executive branch has determined that section 3 of doma, the marriage act, is unconstitutional ased to same-sex couples illegally married under state law. christine, does that mean that they are not going to fight for this? does this bode well for you? >> it does bode well for us. the administration has said that they will not enforce doma but yet they are continuing to enforce it. so we are encouraged that the administration will continue to fight to overturn doma. >> well, to both of you, tracey cooper-harris and christine sun, we will anxiously wait to see what happens to not only your case but other cases challenging doma. thank you to you both. >> thank you. >>> more than 100 dolphins are stranded on cape cod in just one month. we're going to take you live to where the rescue operations are taking place and also tell you if they have been successful till now would you take it? well, there is. [ male announcer ] it's called ocuvite. a vitamin totally dedicated to your eyes, from the eye-care experts at bausch + lomb. as you age, eyes can lose vital nutrients. ocuvite helps rep

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first of all, the president of the united states has made very clear that he supports repeal of doma,ge deal. seco secondly, he said my position is evolving because he understands what giuliani said earlier on the show, that americans want to allow gay couples to make the same commitment that every other couple makes. that's the modern position and one that both parties should take. governor christie -- >> it is different than the term marriage. is he dodging the term of marriage? >> no, the president has been clear about this. he said i support repeal of doma which is a huge deal and a major step in the road of getting gay marriage in the country, but he doesn't currently support marriage. the president and governor christie are wrong about that, but governor cuomo, governor o'mall o'malley, and others are right about it. the future of this country, governor -- mayor giuliani is right, the future is going to be we're on a journey where most states if not all states ultimately have marriage for gay couples. that's because allowing people to make that commitment is exactly the right th

i mentioned doma and he also know about don't ask don't tell and he abolished that. there's one place i will agree on, that is barack obama should evolve already and the reason is because it allows people like christie to hide behind the president and we saw that again today. in the court case in california overturning proposition eight those that wanted to move it to the full ninth circuit, they had cited barack obama just like christie did as a reason why that it was not discriminatory to ban marriage equality in california. >> there's something about evolution and the people's opinions. the governor claims that the president is trying to have it both ways when he shouted on that set, this is the sort of political cow wardice we don't want. he has not let a personal opinion interfere with a policy decision which is the reverse of christie. >> christie looks at the polls showing 70% of people 18-30 right now support marriage equality. he sees the writing on the wall. just today maryland became the eighth state to approve same-sex marriage around it's very exciting.

chairman, in 2005 when the court decide d the use of eminet doma domain, the house moved quickly to condemn that decision and a bipartisan manner with 220 republicans voted with me in favor of the house resolution expressing our disapproval of the decision. i hope that today we can again find our way across party lines and do what's right and in the best interest of ordinary american citizens. i urge all of my colleagues to support my amendment. with that, yield back the remainder of my time. >> mr. chairman? >> the gentleman from nebraska is recognized. >> to speak against the amendment, first, i -- before i get to the merits of mr. rush's amendment here, i want to state that there is a phrase used push them off their land. this is a right of way. where they'll take not take but use 50 feet, bury it, and the land owners then continue to ranch on top of it or grow their crops on top of it. so it's not pushing anyone off their land. i just want to set that straight. because i think that it shows an image here that's just not accurate to begin with. now there are private company and they nego

the obama administration has said it opposes doma and would like to see repealed and it says for the most part it won't defend it in court but they can't really undo it. that is really a congressional effort so that is probably a big lyrical effort that will be taking place in the near future. >> five years now where do you think gay marriage will stand in america? >> we will see a lot more states giving gay couples the right to marry. some will open a marriage. they are already thinking about it in many places. we will see other states start down that path, maybe with domestic partnerships are the bigger packages of civil unions. we have got 20 states now better at some stage in that process and i think in five years we will be passed the tipping point. >> we thank you very much for your time. >> thank you. >> the c-span 2012 campaign bus visits communities across the country. to follow the buses travel's visit www.c-span.org/bus. you have written a book about the obama -- and most people find it a very admiring book. the administration has i guess disagreed. they have come out with

even though folder refuses to -- even wilder refuses to defend doma, his justice department is busy defending unconstitutional overreaches like obamacare and like the president's recent bogus appointments to the consumer financial protection bureau and the national labor relations board. [applause] but you see, that does not seem to bother attorney general holder one bit because, as we all know, he serves at the pleasure of president obama, and he enjoys his complete confidence. one final point -- president obama said that -- famously that elections have consequences, and we all know it is true. eric holder is a perfect example of just one of the bad consequences from the election of 2008 and why the 2012 election is so vitally important. when you elect a liberal president, when you elect a liberal supermajority in the united states senate, you get a liberal each journey to -- attorney general like eric holder. so the best way to get a new attorney general is to get a new president and to get a new senate majority, which we will, with your help in 2012. thank you and god bless all of you. [ap

he said i support repeal of doma, which is a huge deal and a major step in the road towards getting marriage in this country, but he doesn't currently support marriage. the president and governor christie are wrong about that, but governor cuomo, governor o'malley and others are right about it. the future of this country, governor, mayor giuliani, the future of this country is going to be that we are on a journey where most states if not all ultimately have marriage for gay couples. that's because allowing people to make that commitment is exactly the right thing to do. >> the challenge rudy set out was for the republican party to modernize. that's a challenge they should take seriously. the big question confronting them is are we going to advance the rhetoric every place except in people's personal lives? this is untenable. so it says look, whether it's rudy's state by state solution or rebuilding the big tent to allow for greater diversity within the republican party, that will connect to the generation and expand in the maps. >> he talks about losing the northeast. >> that's right. >> the

today they won't defend doma for same sex married couples in the military.y won't fight same sex getting all the rights opposite sex married couples have in the military. do you think the president's treatment of gay rights issue is an asset to his reelection campaign, that is something he should run on against the republican nominee? >> absolutely. we're seeing the poll numbers that have change sd where americans are supporting gay marriage, i would give him a c-plus with the move today, he's done a lot, he could have worked a little harder on the repeal of don't ask don't tell, but it got done. we're making progress, we're taking the offense this time which is so nice. washington state just passed marriage, maryland is poised, had a set back in new jersey today but we are back on the ballot in maine, we won in new york, this is the way it should be. the state legislature should be making these decisions. should not be left to the will of the people, this is a civil rights issue. >> i don't know if you buy the sort of wide speculation that chris christi vet

even though holder -- even while older refuses to defend doma, his justice department is busy defendingnconstitutional overreaches like obamacare and president obama's appointments to the consumer protections bureau and the national labor relations board. [applause] that does not seem to bother attorney general holder won bids. as we all know, he serves at the pleasure -- one bit. as the all know, he serves at the pleasure of the president and enjoys his complete confidence. president obama says elections have consequences. we all know it is true. eric holder is a perfect example of one of the bad consequences from the election of 2008 and why the 2012 election is so important. [applause] when you elect a liberal president, when you elect a liberal super majority in the united states senate, you get a liberal attorney general like eric holder. the best way to get a new attorney general is to get a new president and to get a new senate majority, which we well with your help in 2012. [applause] thank you and god bless all of you. [applause] your president have the highest moral and ethica

doma, gay marriage, done. this was classic. this is what we were expecting.lso what we were expecting, and he delivered, was nailing down what his record in massachusetts was. he listed it through, because this is what he's been suffering. it's been his achilles heel if you look at how newt gingrich takes to the stump. remember all those times he said massachusetts moderate, massachusetts liberal? this is what newt gingrich -- or newt was pushing on mitt romney, and this is what mitt romney was pushing right back at gingrich. and he was doing it to the base he needs. but how much will it resonate? did he get what he needed? did the applausemeter read meat line? we're going to chew on this with some of the people we know best. our political pundits weighing in to see if he did the job he needed to do, will it lead to a straw poll win, does it even matter? so many questions, we've got answers. that's all coming up in a moment. a reservation at the sushi place around the corner. well, in that case, i better get back to these invoices... which i'll do right after