. >> let mu ask you about two more recent moments in edie windsor, and her challenge of doma.hy was her case so significant? >> well, over time the issues and priorities changed. they began prioritizing include in military, family life, religion, and that was contested in the movement. many thought that the radicals were anti-war, they didn't want inclusion in the military. we're opposed to monogamy and conventional family life. so there's that tension. nevertheless for many people the goal was broad acceptance, equality in all aspects of american life, and edie windsor and the struggle for same-sex marriage was that aspect of the movement. her role, and others, were absolutely essential in achieves this measure of the long-standing goal, which was for those people who want to marry, that they have the legal right to do so. >> in 2016, during a march, rangers, those from the national park service joining in the gay pride movement. what does that tell but where police and authorities were in '69 and where we are today? >> again, i think there's conflicting feelings. on the one