domenica donovan with the office of small business. my colleague from the planning department might be better able to answer this question, but when personal services, health services, those who don't have to go through the mandatory discretionary review, they'll have to pay for a change of use fees like any other change of use within the city. do i have that correct, audrey? >> chair peskin: i want to say miss butkus, but miss merlone. >> chair peskin: i'm going to get that. one more meeting, i'll be good. >> so addressing the fees, it's no difference than any business that wants to establish itself in the first place, and they're establishing their use in the first place. so the fees where the planning department is concerned, we is always -- somebody can come in, whether they're trying to be an active business ten years ago, come in originally, or come in today. >> supervisor safai: you're saying two different things. you're saying one is an establishing fee, and one is a change of use fee. so are you saying that some of these busin