do media, about dominic cummings breaking the rules.— breaking the rules.the rules. do you think this committee will eventually l breaking the rules. do you think. this committee will eventually find that he did intentionally and recklessly mislead the commons? well, that is up to them, isn't it? just bear in mind that they are in majority committee of tory mps. they have combed through all of the evidence they have, and they have put out a pretty damning report which i read in great detail sometimes about the evidence against him. i think sometimes about the evidence against him. ithink it sometimes about the evidence against him. i think it is pretty strong. i think we are all waiting to see how it goes tomorrow, but i think they are going to crawl all over the statements that borisjohnson has made. statements that boris johnson has made. �* , ., ., statements that boris johnson has made. 3 ., ., , ., made. it's quite hard to prove thouuh, made. it's quite hard to prove though. isn't _ made. it's quite hard to prove though, isn't it, _ made. it's quite ha

cummings and saying that it is well known that dominic cummings there's animus towards me. ry what boris johnson's advisers said and boris johnson is advised at the time, including cummings saying because boris johnson's one of the strands of his defence rests on the idea that his advisers were telling him that he had that he could stand up in and say that he didn't knowingly break any rules and. he says that if he was given that advice and he relayed it in parliament, then he's sorry. it was incorrect , but what could he incorrect, but what could he possibly do? that was the advice he given, he's a busy man he he was given, he's a busy man he was busy the was very busy during the pandemic run the pandemic was trying to run the country. he to rely his country. he to rely on his advisers , work out the nitty advisers, work out the nitty gritty of the regulations. and it seems that while johnson claims that apart from dominic cummings , all of the evidence in cummings, all of the evidence in his dossier, his advisers suggests , that they were telling suggests, that they were t

dominic cummings, borisjohnson's chief whatsapp messages.iser has also leaked a huge borisjohnson's chief adviser has also leaked a huge amount of material and discussed in public. there is not much we don't already know about all of this. and that is before we get to the stage of the public inquiry. fight! before we get to the stage of the public inquiry-— public inquiry. and of course all this has to _ public inquiry. and of course all this has to come _ public inquiry. and of course all this has to come into _ public inquiry. and of course all this has to come into the - public inquiry. and of course all this has to come into the code | public inquiry. and of course all. this has to come into the code they love inquiry. tens of thousands of people died. even if he is saying it's about the operational capacity and not a wilful ignorance of advice, that has to be examined as well. , ., advice, that has to be examined as well. , . . ., , advice, that has to be examined as well. . well. yes, and clearly those decisions — well. yes, and clearly

, who said he couldn't— dominic cummings, who said he couldn't trust.he must've read all the evidence that was put out in _ read all the evidence that was put out in the — read all the evidence that was put out in the public domain before and that included evidence from an mp who explicitly told the committee that he _ who explicitly told the committee that he did warn that the event, the party in _ that he did warn that the event, the party in the — that he did warn that the event, the party in the garden was against the rules _ party in the garden was against the rules and — party in the garden was against the rules. and that he was very concerned about it. it shouldn't go ahead _ concerned about it. it shouldn't go ahead so — concerned about it. it shouldn't go ahead so i — concerned about it. it shouldn't go ahead. so i think borisjohnson was giving _ ahead. so i think borisjohnson was giving a _ ahead. so i think borisjohnson was giving a rather selective view of what _ giving a rather selective view of what the — giving a rather selective view of

he accuses it of relying on and in his words, discredited dominic cummings, his former advisor. the committee says mr. johnson's written submission contains no new documentary evidence and was submittedate due to a number of errors. sa powers says mr. johnson's criticism of the committee may be an attempt to win over mps who will ultimately decide his fate. >> i think what he's tryi to do is bring the process into disrepute such as any doubt that may or may not curb on sanctions becomes effectively on whether you believe in the process of the privileges committee or not. >> mr. johnson faces being suspended or expelled from parliament if mp's decide he deliberately misled them. here's across bench member of the house. >> if they find that was the case, they can susnd him for 10 days or more. they might do something less than that. they might just century him. that has to be considered improved by parliament. if it was 10 days or more. it could be recalled by election. so there is a huge amount hanging on this. >> that is what is at stake. the next step is a televised hearing tom

one of the things that brags it did with dominic cummings, who worked as you know, were, boys johnson was to sway the 1000000 or so british voters who had not registered with either party. the russians also influenced brakes. the russians also tried influenced us elections in particle angland. hey, when you these read the muller reports i was i was invited on the b, b. c. about that they had to, the mother report showed that there was no conceivable perceived interference in u. s. elections. let's get off this other topic clearly because you know, i, i read them all are aboard, i've done a lot of work on it. and it showed there wasn't any, i mean, there were a few troll social media. i mean, this was to do with structural changes in the american demographic. trump. i mean, i believe trump is a russia age, a social media and propaganda are being used used every single day. and it's an instrument of policy that the russians have been very, very effective at using. and you cannot deny that, you know, believe trauma, russian agents do you or the steel report. i think i think he was a usef

first, he slams the committee listening his proven enemy, dominic cummings , writing, there dominic cummings there is no evidence all that supports an allegation that i intentionally or recklessly the house. the only exception is the assertions of the discredit dominic cummings, which are not supported any documentation . and supported any documentation. and bofis supported any documentation. and boris then goes on to say it is no secret that cummings an animus towards me having publicly stated on multiple occasions that he wanted to do everything that he could to remove me from he cannot be treated as a credible witness . treated as a credible witness. now boris goes on slam the profound and implications the future of debate in the house if it is considered reckless for the pm to rely on assurances . the pm to rely on assurances. trusted advisers, he writes . trusted advisers, he writes. that allegation is untrue . it that allegation is untrue. it entered and absurd . i was the entered and absurd. i was the prime minister of the country working day and night to manage government's response t

first, he slams the committee listening his proven enemy, dominic cummings , writing, there dominic cummings there is no evidence all that supports an allegation that i intentionally or recklessly the house. the only exception is the assertions of the discredit dominic cummings, which are not supported any documentation . and supported any documentation. and bofis supported any documentation. and boris then goes on to say it is no secret that cummings an animus towards me having publicly stated on multiple occasions that he wanted to do everything that he could to remove me from he cannot be treated as a credible witness . treated as a credible witness. now boris goes on slam the profound and implications the future of debate in the house if it is considered reckless for the pm to rely on assurances . the pm to rely on assurances. trusted advisers, he writes . trusted advisers, he writes. that allegation is untrue . it that allegation is untrue. it entered and absurd . i was the entered and absurd. i was the prime minister of the country working day and night to manage government's response t

covid pandemic, and borisjohnson and rishi sunak and all their advisers and their pollsters and dominic cummingsnd patrick vallance and chris whitty and basically everyone who had anything to do with covid. where do you think that the story has kind of got to? well, it carries bubbling along, doesn't it? so, it's not quite, i don't think, necessarily yet at the kind of, the obvious comparisons for the daily telegraph is expenses, mps' expenses the best part of 15 years ago. it is generating a lot of news, loads and loads of pick—up in lots of different news organisations but it isn't necessarily the top story everywhere, every day for days and days on end but they have got shedloads of stuff to reveal. i went into telegraph towers — the headquarters of the telegraph — today. i was shown the bunker which is how they describe this kind of windowless room where about eight journalists, since the turn of the year, so for two months, sitting in a room not much bigger than the newscast studio, not much bigger than your average maybe bedroom in a house, where they are all sitting behind desktop compute

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of the covid pandemic between borisjohnson and rishi sunak and other advisers in posters in dominic cummings and others and basically everyone who had anything to do with covid. the weird do you think that story has got to? weird do you think that story has not to? �* , ., ~' got to? it's not quite i think necessarily _ got to? it's not quite i think necessarily yet _ got to? it's not quite i think necessarily yet at _ got to? it's not quite i think necessarily yet at the - got to? it's not quite i think necessarily yet at the kind l got to? it's not quite i think| necessarily yet at the kind of obvious comparison of the telegraph. generating a lot of news. loads and loads of pick—up and different news organisations but it is not necessarily top story everywhere for days and days on end., but they have shades of stuff to reveal. i went to the headquarters of the telegraph today showing the bunker where they kind of describe this windowless room where about eightjournalists since the turn of the year come over to europe months, sitting in the room not much bigger than this studio, may be than

he accuses it of relying on, in his words, "discredited dominic cummings", his former adviser.submitted late due to "a number of errors and typos" politics lecturer sam power says mrjohnson's criticism's of the committee may be an attempt to win over mp's who will ultimately decide his fate. i think what he is trying to do is bring the process into disrepute so any vote that may or may not occur and sanctions becomes effectively a vote on whether you believe in the process of the privileges committee or not. mrjohnson faces being suspended or even expelled from parliament, if mps decide he deliberately misled them. here's lord kerslake — a cross bench member of the house of lords. they can suspend him for ten days or more _ they can suspend him for ten days or more and _ they can suspend him for ten days or more and they might do something less than— more and they might do something less than that and they mayjust censure — less than that and they mayjust censure him and that has to be approved — censure him and that has to be approved by parliament but if it was this than— app

a pm like boris who was said to have percentage and probabilities explained him by disgraced dominic cummings and finally says assuming that it takes 30 seconds to write and send a message that's thousand minutes, 833 hours or 34 days, continually on whatsapp. does anyone else find that little bit odd? well i don't actually find it , simon, because, i mean, that it, simon, because, i mean, that is now how people communicate and that part of whatsapp groups and that part of whatsapp groups and of course some of these whatsapp groups were the chief medical officer, the chief scientific adviser , the health scientific adviser, the health secretary, the prime minister . secretary, the prime minister. i'm not especially by any of this now. it is time now to go through rishi deal and this is really, really important because once again today our newspapers are giving the most positive spin. you ever heard. it's as if he's performed some miracle coup and the conservatives could well storm back to victory . well, storm back to victory. well, let's just have a look at some of the issues that highlighte

i can't read it is new feature with enough time i'm talking dominic cummings paul can you on my fox andnel back in three really . on mark dolan tonight in my big opinion following wednesday's budget , things are tough, but as budget, things are tough, but as we avoid recession the prophets of doom were wrong to write off brexit. britain it might take it ten the charity oxfam has banned the word mother. my reaction. my ma meets guest is military hero and former blackrod of parliament david leakey, who called out ex speaker john bercow's bullying class one of the founding fathers of brexit. how does he think it's going? douglas carswell well, well—connected journalist petronella wyatt on channel 4 star kim woodburn. see . star kim woodburn. see. what eight i now kind of escaped you that jeremy hunt , the chancellor of jeremy hunt, the chancellor of the exchequer this week a budget the exchequer this week a budget the biggest point childcare now fits neatly in with my previous discussion as many parents have to make the decision to who stays and who goes to work the cost of living compared

i can't read it is new feature with enough time i'm talking dominic cummings paul can you on my fox andnel back in three really . on mark dolan tonight in my big opinion following wednesday's budget , things are tough, but as budget, things are tough, but as we avoid recession the prophets of doom were wrong to write off brexit. britain it might take it ten the charity oxfam has banned the word mother. my reaction. my ma meets guest is military hero and former blackrod of parliament david leakey, who called out ex speaker john bercow's bullying class one of the founding fathers of brexit. how does he think it's going? douglas carswell well, well—connected journalist petronella wyatt on channel 4 star kim woodburn. see . star kim woodburn. see. what eight i now kind of escaped you that jeremy hunt , the chancellor of jeremy hunt, the chancellor of the exchequer this week a budget the exchequer this week a budget the biggest point childcare now fits neatly in with my previous discussion as many parents have to make the decision to who stays and who goes to work the cost of living compared

a pm like boris who was said to have percentage and probabilities explained him by disgraced dominic cummingsnd finally says assuming that it takes 30 seconds to write and send a message that's thousand minutes, 833 hours or 34 days, continually on whatsapp. does anyone else find that little bit odd? well i don't actually find it , simon, because, i mean, that it, simon, because, i mean, that is now how people communicate and that part of whatsapp groups and that part of whatsapp groups and of course some of these whatsapp groups were the chief medical officer, the chief scientific adviser , the health scientific adviser, the health secretary, the prime minister . secretary, the prime minister. i'm not especially by any of this now. it is time now to go through rishi deal and this is really, really important because once again today our newspapers are giving the most positive spin. you ever heard. it's as if he's performed some miracle coup and the conservatives could well storm back to victory . well, storm back to victory. well, let's just have a look at some of the issues that highlighted

if he had i thought and if dominic cummings had thought and if dominic cummings had thought that thisvent, when i walked out into the garden it was implicit centred on what we were doing that this was a work event. this doing that this was a work event. as you will see from the bundle we have evidence _ you will see from the bundle we have evidence that trestle tables were set up _ evidence that trestle tables were set up on — evidence that trestle tables were set up on which alcohol was laid out in the _ set up on which alcohol was laid out in the attendees included your wife as well— in the attendees included your wife as well as — in the attendees included your wife as well as advisers who were not from _ as well as advisers who were not from numberten as well as advisers who were not from number ten but from other government departments. did you see that when— government departments. did you see that when you were at the gathering? i had that when you were at the gathering? i had no _ that when you were at the gathering? i had no hand in organising this when you talk about trestle

case and martin reynolds, as well, dominic cummings saying that lee cain, who was boris johnson's chief cummings both warned boris johnson about the problems with rule breaking . so this this rule breaking. so this this assertion from boris johnson that he was simply relaying what his advisers told him, their advice was wrong, but, hey , it's advice was wrong, but, hey, it's not my fault that boris johnson's saying that for obvious reason, cummings has animus. are. we animus. well, here we are. we have johnson coming have boris johnson coming in with panic case, his legal with lord panic case, his legal adviser . with lord panic case, his legal adviser. though, as we say, this is not a court of law it is a parliamentary committee. here we go . not now go. not now. order, order . this go. not now. order, order. this is a public evidence session of the house of commons committee of privilege . the privileges of privilege. the privileges purpose in this inquiry is to decide whether or not mr. johnson misled the house of commons, whether or not he committed a contempt of the house and wheth

his advisers are now disputing that we have dominic cummings which understandably boris johnson thathas every every reason to lie because he has animus , as to lie because he has animus, as bofis to lie because he has animus, as boris johnson puts it, against the former prime minister. but then also dechaine. again, relationships aren't great between the two, but simon case well has now come out though. but private secretary has come out and said that cabinet secretary has come out and said that no, didn't tell that no, he didn't tell categorically that it was okay for him to stand up and say that no guidance has been followed. and martin reynolds well, so you've few these you've got quite a few these advisers johnson's now advisers to boris johnson's now relying on contradicting evidence which he's given so if lord panic's gli rest on the idea that boris johnson is only relaying his advisers said to him that i'm not sure if it's going to hold. so we're getting a few emails and keep them coming in gbviews@gbnews.uk and the phrase kangaroo court keeps coming up. and i'd just like to ad

lockdowns , but lacking the courage to actually about actually do anything about dominic of dominic cummingslockdown. he's very into stat. yeah matt hancock, essentially a delusional opportunist worried about his 100 k testing target rather the actual science or the actual reality or testing the right people. he wasn't testing people care homes people going into care homes said hospitals, not said we need from hospitals, not from yeah that was said we need from hospitals, not fromfrustrating. yeah that was said we need from hospitals, not fromfrustrating. theh that was said we need from hospitals, not from frustrating. the whole was very frustrating. the whole thing annoying they thing is so annoying and they only in schools only did masks in schools because was doing it because sturgeon was doing it and so and boris, at least and it's so and boris, at least to his credit suggested a red team who would a different team who would give a different opinion. that didn't really opinion. but that didn't really go. the time it was go. i knew at the time it was all and i was this cancer all and i wa

, but lacking the courage to actually anything about actually do anything about dominic his dominic cummings lockdown. he's very into stat. yeah matt hancock, essentially a delusional opportunist worried about his 100 k testing target rather the actual science or the actual reality or testing the right people. wasn't testing right people. he wasn't testing people care homes people going into care homes said from hospitals, not said we need from hospitals, not from yeah was from residences. yeah that was very whole very frustrating. the whole thing they thing is so annoying and they only masks in schools only did masks in schools because was doing it because sturgeon was doing it and so and boris, at least and it's so and boris, at least to his credit suggested a red team who give a different team who would give a different opinion. that didn't opinion. but that didn't really go. knew time it was go. i knew at the time it was all and i was called this cancer risk all and i was called this cancer fisk and all and i was called this cancer risk and spreading, you risk theorist and spreading, you

dominic cummings say that's a cummings we might say that's a slightly partisan source given that outfor vengeance and, that he's out for vengeance and, has much admitted you can has pretty much admitted you can never someone's never prove what someone's actually that's point actually thinking. that's point of the time, isn't it.7 then what, boris johnson said was, look, believe that this is all look, i believe that this is all for work purposes. he for essential work purposes. he still were still basically said was we were following the guidance to the best of our right now as is pointed out by sabine bernard jenkin , a senior tory mp and who jenkin, a senior tory mp and who was very much on the attack against boris johnson. yeah if bofis against boris johnson. yeah if boris johnson had said that in then there wouldn't be any of this. there wouldn't be a problem. he was so emphatic there were no rules broken and. can you see how however that how might actually work in boris's favour as favour ultimately and as far as a of people who him a lot of people who support him at think that th

the latest batch of messages reveal that hancock conspired with dominic cummings. remember him ?hnson's key adviser to try to get rid of simon stevens, but they don't reveal why the minister and number ten were planning to do so . so joining us planning to do so. so joining us now for this is gb news now for more on this is gb news presenter, nigel farage. nigel good to see you all. so glad to see that they didn't manage to put you behind bars, which is one the whatsapp messages for one of the whatsapp messages for being a pub hooligan. how did you feel when you saw that message? called message? well, i've been called many things over years, but many things over the years, but hoougans many things over the years, but hooligans brand new, so i've now got as my new twitter handle got it as my new twitter handle and very pleased to say you look amazing , isn't it? the 14 days , amazing, isn't it? the 14 days, this is the 14 day rule and the argument was and i fully in a 14 day and they say no, it could have been 13 days and 12 bouts. what we've learned this morning is that 14 days w

dominic cummings has been tweeting this morning that he tried to kill this project back in january 2020from the moment, thank you. and will await the developments on that later this afternoon update you of course as soon as we details here on gb news live. also coming up from rail to road, national highways issuing that severe weather alert. the blizzards on the way. which part of the network will be hit worst will updating you on that. will be updating you on that. stay . us and welcome back to tv news live. so the blizzards are arriving or on their way national highways its severe weather alert as the conditions disrupting the network across many parts of the country. motorists in the north of england are being asked to reconsider travel plans in the face of that snow and then the blizzard winds. let's get more now with edmund king of the aa . now with edmund king of the aa. edmund, of course, we were warned that this was on the way, but what's the picture like at the moment ? but what's the picture like at the moment? yeah, we but what's the picture like at the moment ? yeah, we were

dominic cummings is the slithered out from under a rock again today , hurling a piece at again today, . he's already done barnum castle. he's already done that. barnum castle. he's already done that . an executive. what's your that. an executive. what's your nominee? please well, mine is actually going to have to be the conservator party as a whole, because this country is falling apart , and we're focusing on apart, and we're focusing on things that i believe don't things that i believe just don't matter . and things that i believe just don't matter. and it's time to wake up really and smell the coffee. and nigel and alison, you eliminate it. squirming. borisjohnson , it. squirming. boris johnson, for not admitting that misleading parliament if not deliberately , it might have been deliberately, it might have been reckless , but he wasn't reckless reckless, but he wasn't reckless in any . and he's proven that in any. and he's proven that today. in any. and he's proven that today . he's proven it, but he today. he's proven it, but he certainly it. he hasn't admitted anything. if he ad

time now reveal tonight's greatest britain and check this as if it's off at the dominic cummings whoor greatest person. my nominee for greatest britain is women's rights activist katiej . keane, otherwise known as posy parker. i just want to commend her for the work she's done, especially after the attack that she had to endure in new zealand by trans activists. indeed. and i think we've got little of my i think we've got a little of my interview with her last night . interview with her last night. oh, i don't think we have to do it. i do. brooks, we saw your nominee on the shop, so i it. i do. brooks, we saw your nominee on the shop , so i know nominee on the shop, so i know it's the best sea dogs hug. yes, i'm a big dog dog lover. i've always been a dog lover . always been a dog lover. something paul o'grady supported highlighted a lot through his programs. they're just a sort of institution , and i wish more institution, and i wish more people would support them. and more people would adopt dogs . more people would adopt dogs. oh, my goodness. and we've we've revealed to matthew,

time now reveal tonight's greatest britain and check this as if it's off at the dominic cummings whofor greatest person. my nominee for greatest britain is women's rights activist katiej . keane, otherwise known as posy parker. i just want to commend her for the work she's done, especially after the attack that she had to endure in new zealand by trans activists. indeed. and i think we've got little of my i think we've got a little of my interview with her last night . interview with her last night. oh, i don't think we have to do it. i do. brooks, we saw your nominee on the shop, so i it. i do. brooks, we saw your nominee on the shop , so i know nominee on the shop, so i know it's the best sea dogs hug. yes, i'm a big dog dog lover. i've always been a dog lover . always been a dog lover. something paul o'grady supported highlighted a lot through his programs. they're just a sort of institution , and i wish more institution, and i wish more people would support them. and more people would adopt dogs . more people would adopt dogs. oh, my goodness. and we've we've revealed to matthew,

do you normally get inspiration from dominic cummings for labour policies ? i think the policies? actually comes from people who've consistently in this country voted for change. they voted for change in referendums, they voted for change across the board and what we want to see is the government make good on those promises. instead, in the budget this week, which should have been a game changer. we saw just 9% of the population and granted the power to take charge of their own destiny on the new devolution deals. there's a missing 90% there and labour is determined that we're going to deliver for those people . but deliver for those people. but are you confident that devolution has always been a great success? i mean, look at scotland. do the public actually want more power to be devolved to people who perhaps they didn't elect and that weren't elected on a very big turnout ? elected on a very big turnout? isn't it just devolving to people who are essentially bureaucrats and not necessarily reflecting their interests ? reflecting their interests? look, i think the evidence of the

dominic cummings is the slithered out from under a rock again today , hurling a piece at again today,ready done barnum castle. he's already done that. barnum castle. he's already done that . an executive. what's your that. an executive. what's your nominee? please well, mine is actually going to have to be the conservator party as a whole, because this country is falling apart , and we're focusing on apart, and we're focusing on things that i believe don't things that i believe just don't matter . and things that i believe just don't matter. and it's time to wake up really and smell the coffee. and nigel and alison, you eliminate it. squirming. borisjohnson , it. squirming. boris johnson, for not admitting that misleading parliament if not deliberately , it might have been deliberately, it might have been reckless , but he wasn't reckless reckless, but he wasn't reckless in any . and he's proven that in any. and he's proven that today. in any. and he's proven that today . he's proven it, but he today. he's proven it, but he certainly it. he hasn't admitted anything. if he admitted rec

and then patrick vallance apparently said to a whatsapp discussion with dominic cummings that although on the way to doing something, we need to take the time. safety is of the essence because something like the zika virus which has around for a while in a vaccine . so for a while in a vaccine. so basically what i'm thinking here is that, sir, please tell us what you're thinking, because i don't understand a word of all that. so what i'm saying is that is it's wet and it seems to is that it's wet and it seems to slip. and this association for mr. hancock, who is got himself in serious trouble by handing over his whatsapp messages to a journalist who quite clearly wasn't on his of the fence wasn't on his side of the fence and he's pretty stupid, isn't he? yeah, but it also makes me think that they were overstating how dangerous a virus was for a long time in order to keep people sticking by them in order . yes. yeah. following the rules . but. but, but, but. keep us in check. . but. but, but, but. keep us in check . it's clearly that mr. check. it's clearly that mr. hancock couldn't hav

the so—called alba party, that they had to celebrate the end of dominic cummings wasn't even investigatedll say there was a lot more to look at that she decided not to. what of british investigation seven mps the tories on there some of them are no fans of boris johnson if they find he has knowingly misled parliament. does he have to be suspended from parliament? well, that's up to, mustn't it? i mean, they have to decide. i mean, i think they they have to decide it. how egregious the was. right whether it was accidental . whether it was over accidental. whether it was over and over again. now, the guardian online is published some of the whatsapp messages is that boris has made to back bofis that boris has made to back boris has made available at they are quite. i they are they are people his in his the pr people going. i don't see how we can how can spin this away. i don't see how this is within the rules . i mean they are. it is quite difficult to say how he thinks he's been vindicated . just don't he's been vindicated. just don't sue gray. and you don't think there's any problem whatso

time and again, boris's sort of libertarian instincts sort of come out and then along comes dominic cummingswho says 75, the pubuc cummings, who says 75, the public think you're wrong or you know, whatever. then he collapses again. now you know, frankly, i think he could have been know, that been stronger, you know, that that demonstrates that this polling data was much, much more important and really hard side. so what's very very little hard science in the first year it was guesswork and you know him saying, oh, we're saving lives. well, i think we're saving lives. go look what i would say to him. go look at sweden. matt go look at sweden. they did pretty much the opposite of what you did and they saved more lives than you did. so i don't think that the premise of that stands up . okay, this is it is. stands up. okay, this is it is. thank you, david. let's get more analysis on the legal implications of the immigration legislation. joining us now is , legislation. joining us now is, a lawyer, schuyler mckee. good morning, schuyler. thank you for hanging on. won't you ? we're hanging on. won

just in the office i was in, for example , and i had a desk opposite dominic cummings, so we were togetheretween us was a perspex screen . you know, i'm perspex screen. you know, i'm sure many of you, your viewers sit in offices where you've got two desks facing and we have a perspex screen between us. there's another couple of desks a bit further, along with a perspex screen between we were doing our best to have social distancing as much as you can . i distancing as much as you can. i mean, if i turn round his door behind me so, you know, we're all very close together , so you all very close together, so you do your best. yes. there shouldn't have been those drinks parties . but shouldn't have been those drinks parties. but did people have a dnnk parties. but did people have a drink at their desk? probably, yes. i mean, you know , things yes. i mean, you know, things happen. you're there for months and months. and it's worth remembering people in downing street weren't off. they weren't working from home. they were all working from home. they were all working in the office very hard comi

i mean these messages to the prime minister to dominic cummings, to supporters chris supporters of violencewhitty and others and it's just interesting the texts interesting reading the texts themselves at themselves. however, at the moment is urgent moment there is an urgent question. parliament earlier on today, the government effectively line effectively sticking by the line that they will defend what happened within back in 2020 and dunng happened within back in 2020 and during the pandemic. but also the people need to wait for this covid inquiry and in fact we actually have heard from baroness hallett, she is heading up inquiry today. baroness hallett, she is heading up inquiry today . she up that inquiry today. she didn't matt hancock or , didn't mention matt hancock or, isabel by name, but isabel oakeshott by name, but she say the inquiry she did say that the inquiry team working out. team were working flat out. i know no other inquiry of its kind in world or in public was strategy powers to obtain evidence core participants playing important roles and extraordinary broad terms refere

or did anything other than what he was advised to do, apart from the discredited dominic cummings i don't'm i'm i'm not losing magic moment when he stands up but can i tell you when i was at the bar, the statement he has produced was known as a plaster job. okay, known as a plasterjob. okay, you plaster together? the true and the false . and they're from and the false. and they're from seek to manufacture the credible law. and that's what he's done the thing is there are a lot of autographs lawyers have done it, autographs lawyers have done it, a lot of pictures available, which shows a lot of beer bottles and wine glasses and wine bottles and things sitting on the table and, you know, whether you determined that was normal working practise. so that would be allowed in a normal working environ amounts is up to you or not. but the fact that they all existed there , i mean , they all existed there, i mean, it's hard for him to argue against all of that, that he allowed this to go on, was telling everyone else not to do it. what about this argument that the stakes couldn't be higher in terms

dominic the only smoking gun they've got is testi we might1inic the only smoking gun they've got is testi we might say: the only smoking gun they've got is testi we might say that's a cummings might say that's a slightly partisan source given that he's out for vengeance and, has pretty much admitted you can never prove what someone's actually thinking. that's point of time, isn't it.7 then of the time, isn't it.7 then what, boris johnson said was, look, believe that this is all look, i believe that this is all for essential work purposes. he still were still basically said was we were following the guidance to the best our right now as is best of our right now as is pointed out by sabine bernard jenkin , a senior tory mp and who jenkin, a senior tory mp and who was very much on the attack against boris johnson. yeah if bofis against boris johnson. yeah if boris johnson had said that in then there wouldn't be any of this. there wouldn't be a problem. he was so emphatic there were no rules broken and. can you see how however that how might actually work in boris's favour as far as favour ultimately and as far as a of people who support him a lot of people who support him at th