and that was a very good swerve, because that quote was actually from dominic cummings. be. and you wouldn't want to be associated with his way of thinking, but do you think maybe he was on to something because he wanted to smash the machine? you maybe don't want to smash it... no, it's not about smashing the machine. it's about making sure that in government we are delivering for all parts of the country. we had the appointment this week of a new cabinet secretary, sir chris wormald, who's a whitehall veteran. i mean, if you wanted to shake things up and do things differently, shouldn't you have appointed somebody who's not been in the system their whole professional life? well, i think it's important to have experience as well, and i really welcome his appointment. we had cabinet office questions today in the house, and i congratulated him on his appointment. i think it's a really good thing. he's got a lot of experience to bring to the table. so these missions, then, how did you actually go about deciding that these were the metrics you were going to aim for? because