most recently, the case of dominic ongwen has been started at the icc, because dominic ongwen has beencongo. dominic ongwen is one of the commanders of the lord's resistance army, and he has been tried from the very beginning with the commission of these crimes. he now faces trial at the icc. he's from uganda. and of course, this requires that we need a lot of cooperation from uganda. you mention dominic ongwen, and i'lljust bring this up — that he was taken as a child soldier at the age of ten, so therefore, is it really right to try somebody who has obviously suffered himself? he is a victim. can he now be the perpetrator of evil? we obviously recognise that. we recognise the fact that, yes, as the defence claims also, dominic ongwen was abducted when he was below the age, and we do recognise that. if you look at our charges to date that we have brought before dominic ongwen, it is those charges which he committed as an adult. because under the icc, any crime committed by a person below the age of 18 cannot be tried before the icc. so all the crimes that we've charged of dominic ongw