has been speaking with the you take form of present minister dominic rob he seemed a lot more optimistic about finding a way out of this box up on plus well the idea is that we would use technology and decentralized processes to ensure that we respect the rules but that we don't have a hard border any infrastructure the border you know with the republic of ireland michel bonnie's very very clear that that can happen he said it could happen in a new deal soon are so why shouldn't that be possible within two years so the question isn't whether this can be done it's a question of the e.u. wanted so the ball is now in the e.u. school and i would hope our german friends and all the you and european friends now grasp the opportunity to get this deal over the line that's often dominic rob makes it sound so simple that so why won't the e.u. consider an alternative to the backstop. because it's not that simple the e.u. has checked all those possibilities technology maybe having sort of a toll system even there hasn't been a convincing solution to that they have considered keeping northern ireland

former minister dominic rob he seemed a lot more optimistic about finding a way out of this backstop us well the idea is that we would use technology and decentralised crisis is to ensure that we respect the rules but that we don't have a hard road or an infrastructure at the border you know with the republic of ireland and michelle bonnie's very very clear that that can happen he said it could happen in a new deal soon all right so why shouldn't that be possible within two years so the question isn't whether this can be done on this question of the e.u. wanted so the bulls now in the e.u. cool and i would hope all german friends and all the u.n. european friends now grasp the opportunity to get this deal over the line so max hoffman dominic rob that makes it sound so simple even says the chief brant sadler goes signed up to the idea so why is this still a roadblock. can i just say one thing really nothing in this process has been simple the really isn't anything simpler what dominique rob is referring to you know technological solutions may be some kind of toll. that just doesn't wo

and european friends now grasp the opportunity to get this deal over the line so max hoffman dominic rob that makes it sound so simple even says the chief president goes as they signed up to the idea so why is this still a roadblock. can i just say one thing really nothing in this process has been simple the really isn't anything simpler what the mini gripe is referring to you know technological solutions maybe some kind of toll. that just doesn't work many experts have looked into that's why that you tried to offer for example keeping more than an island in the customs union with the e.u. and effectively pushing the border between the u.k. and the e.u. out into the irish sea and having controls there as discreetly as possible but that the u.p.a. which is part of the government coalition of theresa may will not have that then they also offered to keep the u.k. in a customs union the whole of the u.k. with the european union but that effectively defies the purpose of bragg's it so that's why the european union the backstop really is the only insurance policy that works everything else mig

really once it's quite contrary to what we just heard from former regs except of terry dominic rob because if you look at what the parliament the house of commons on tuesday really decided it's kind of contradictory on the one hand they said they don't want no deal bragg's it so they don't want to just crash out of the european union on the other hand they're rejecting one of the main red lines that you put in very early which of course is the backstop so the insurance policy to prevent a hard border between northern ireland and ireland so what we're hearing hearing basically mainly so far are different politicians saying that the withdrawal agreements of that divorce agreement that has that back stuff in it won't be reopened again and one european parliamentarian even called theresa may magician without rabbit she's trying to put rabbit out of her head repeatedly three or four times but it's just not there and it's really interesting i mean if you could just gauge the spirit of compromise there max because i mean if if we look at just the official lines from both of these sides the u.k. a

let's get to dominic rob, as you say former u.k.y or his thoughts on the vote comes after 7:00 this evening. well, your assessment of most commentators suggest she will lose, but by how much? it's quite difficult to gauge. i think it's reasonably likely it's going to be roundly defeated, which to my mind means north of 50, but it could be more, but you never quite know. will do you think she still be able to go back to brussels and bring this back for another vote? >> we should always continue to negotiate and keep talking, but now and after we leave the eu, whether it's on wto terms or with a deal, but ultimately we cannot allow the eu to have a veto or delay brexit. we need to be ready with ramped up preparations to leave on wto terms to mature we can actually have some finale to this torture , and give the public a sense of we have delivered and referendum. -- delivered a referendum. anna: can you let a note of brexit -- can you rule out a note of brexit -- no deal brexit? >> i think the likelihood is we will leave on the 29th, w

conference this deal will get done if not we will leave turns on the twenty ninth of march so this is dominic rob and there are others of course in the house of parliament who say the me is just chasing unicorns will be here in two weeks time and she'll come back and she will have got nothing from the european union and it will be groundhog day so it really depends on who you speak to and westminster so what are the next steps then for theresa may barrack at. well. the reason is now going back to brussels and she's going to try and get some flexibility as democrats and others are hoping on the issue of fod on the backs of issues and then she's going to come back here to to london and present this hopefully as she hopes new deal to paul them and then if she doesn't get anything done the question is what happens there is always the hope from the labor party that there might be a general election in the end and there are also all those who are still hoping that there might be a second referendum a vote on the deal and i've spoken to vince cable the leader of the liberal democrats here in london and

budge on the backstop which is the future agreement for northern ireland and we have spoken to dominic rob who used to be the bricks and secretary and he used on the farm bricks it side of the conservative party has been pushing to resume to be tough on the european union in the negotiations and here's how he explains what his thinking is. we want to do a deal with our you friends of our german friends and all friends across europe and of course now you deal with we have some significant implications for german businesses livelihoods and jobs as well as here in the u.k. there's a deal to be done but you can't keep saying no to every reasonable proposal the u.k. makes they need to reciprocate the flexibility that we've shown and if that happens and we have some pragmatism within the commission and across councils this deal will get done if not we will leave on terms on the twenty ninth of march an interesting statement there from him interesting. perhaps to hear some reaction from brussels a little bit later so tell us in the meantime though bear get i mean whatever happened to the talk of

i think it's very unlikely that there will be enough i mean even today in the house of commons dominic rob the secretary said that there was no way that he could support this deal and they were encouraging he was encouraging others to to to also vote it down to stay strong and vote it down in again it is it feels. like they've been talking wall long because that is what it comes down to and both sides all sides so adamant that they are right and that whatever happens has to go their way and that is the problem do you think the. sickly reaping what she has. over the past two years she has always said that it's my way or the highway a deal is the only bricks deal that would be good for the united kingdom was that the wrong approach i mean obviously great cities would say so yes but then you speak to those in brussels and they will say we gave the very best that we could in the u.k. has got a very good deal compared to what they could have got so that's that's the issue there what more so jeremy cool when the leader of the labor party previously saying . as well as wanting a general election

hierarchical being dominated by middle aged men not transparent enough and according to critics of japanese business this is yet again another example of that richelle all right rob. thank you. when you were head of the news our. military coup attempt fails and go bomb with two of the suspect the plotters killed and five others arrested. band in rwanda could be dangerous for customers. and sport a winning start for one of the favorites of football's. president ratchet type erdogan has praised donald trump's decision to withdraw u.s. troops from syria in an opinion piece in the new york times said the pullout must be done carefully he says only turkey can provide the leadership in the region to create stability there are fears the u.s. pullout will pave the way for a turkish assault against american ally in kurdish forces in northern syria hillary mann leverett is a former u.s. diplomat she says. is directed at his american counterpart. i think he's speaking to president donald trump and he needs to do so because the national security adviser john bolton who has been in israel is now going to turkey and we know that national security adviser bolton has a very diff

wayne rooney's mugshot dominates the front of the metro, after it was revealed he was arrested and fined in washington, last month, for being drunk in public and swearing. with me are robt the independent, and the journalist and author, natalie haynes. thank you forjoining me. we have to start with your story. front page of the independent, one of several looking ahead to the brexit vote saying mps are going to block a repeat vote on theresa may's brexit deal. for anyone who caught the prime minister on andrew marr could have been forgiven if they wa nted could have been forgiven if they wanted to pack themselves away with the christmas decorations because nothing changed. still making the same promises about getting the assurances from the eu about the irish border and the vote will be next week and she is almost certain to lose. the one thing that did seem to lose. the one thing that did seem to be fresh, perhaps, was hinting that if she loses the vote next week, she won't give up and she will bring the vote back again and again and again and again, maybe. until she can get mps to vote for it, using the threat of a no—deal brexit, which is now 82 days away to force t