don, do you think we could have changed attitude change, would that help any". >> we tried an attitude change. in training we had worked in relaying voice information from the ground to mike collins back down to the lunar module. we were using ever conceivable way to communicate. in the meantime, time is marching down to my go no-go point. we then have anomaly on the spacecraft where buzz aldrin is not seeing what he expects to see from the voltage indications. this is very critical from a standpoint of gyros, very critical, the controllers said okay it's looking good. by this time a guidance officer, steve bales has tracking information and the spacecraft isn't where it should be. i mean it's that straightford. he didn't know whether the data he was getting was bad, bad navigation, or we had some kind of problem with targeting in the spacecraft, but the problem was that he really got my attention, he says flight, we're out on the radio velocity. vertical velocity, and halfway to our abort limit. boy, when you haven't even started down to the moon and some guy says we're halfway to the abort limit it gets your attention. he continued and said i'll keep watching it. so, all of a s