don dorothy daniela's are many thanks for joining us on the program this evening is good to see you as well. what do you make of mock hospice comments that will sort of dirty work with the americans prefer to have the ukrainians do instead? well, i think by the word phrase dirty work, he's a saying i is deferring to the hard and difficult task that ukrainian soldiers have and fighting and fighting off the russian special military operation. but this is a very widely held view throughout washington. that is, that it's, you know, the war is being fought with a combination of ukrainian blood and u. s. military arms and economic id. now, we know that mark has made this statement during what he thought was a private conversation with ukraine's former president. but just how acceptable it ended in be surprising if such a patronizing attitude from a former top us official it it standard it standard. i mean, the, the us, i feel that can, it can, it can expand at will ukrainian lives, look, ukrainian blood in order to fight this proxy work. and that's what it is doing. it is using the ukraine t