he's joining us today from don fetter. locke's whole welcome along. how disruptive has the kobe 9000 pandemic been for people living with hiv aids? yes, i think it's very different from country to country and surveys in various parts of europe to just get at least 50 percent of the physicians are involved. if you care also matched the code patients, so obviously they have 2 diseases to serve in a such trap and destructions. in our own clinic, we closed the clinic for 2 months in april and may and just sent out prescriptions . i think the biggest challenge has been for testing services because of the issue . you can't go and have contact. other people also locked off. people were not able to assess the usual testing frequency, and that's one of the big worries around missing. it should be diagnosed because people do not go to the adequate testing circuses. and how dangerous is covert 9000? a felt for hiv patients. so that has been an ongoing discussion because obviously people with h.l.v. have often meant efficiency depending on their level of c. 4 cou