was there, you know, the chairs that you see here, he's sitting in the one and don graham is sitting in the other and i'm over and opposite me is cheney who didn't go out with me the whole time, and the national security advisor was around and there were other folks there. nd the president made the same presentation, the context of the war on terrorism, specifically about context of harm. whichd a lot of questions were answered by steven hadley, the national security advisor. again, i e way out, asked specific questions, and said we'd make a decision. that it was my decision whether to be made by him or the publisher, which is we always do things at the times. of the he way out, one gentlemen in the room, i'd known off, and ime on and said, you're not going to name those countries, are you? i wasld tell that's where headed. i could tell that's where he was headed. nobody else mattered. and that's what we did. a lot of t we took hell from people who thought it was terrible for us to breach this national security secret on side, and we took a lot of hell from other people who said you

>> guest: i went to "the new york times" in 2008 and susan worked for don graham and and help them by foreign-policy magazine and take over as editor-in-chief. c-span: you weren't very happy with the way susan was treated at the post when you left. >> guest: that's true. there was a conflict in the newsroom and i helped them at the time, i thought they were very, i didn't think they were supportive of somebody who worked that hard and did doubt much and accomplished as much as she had. c-span: you said you would still be at the post had it not been for that. >> guest: yeah publicly. i grew up in washington area so at my house growing up we have the "washington post" and the washington star. when the star died in the "washington post" came along i remember riding seven miles on my bike to get the first day of the "washington post." washington newspapers mattered to me and still matter to me and my dream was always to work for the "washington post." c-span: what was the problem at the post? >> guest: that's a good question. there are lots of different answers. i would say i learned a lo

we were more well-informed and then we were invited to the white house and don graham the publisher and myself in the president was there he is sitting in one. i'm in the couch over here. he really glowered at me the whole time. he was hovering around. and the president made the same presentation against specifically about different kinds of harm. i ask a lot of questions. most worry answered. and on the way out they said we would make a decision. by the publisher. it was the way we always did things. on the way out one of the gentlemen in the room really put his arm on my shoulder. and said you're not getting in those countries. we could tell that was where i was headed. nevermind anybody else. and after some further start --dash thought. that's what we did. as a result we took a lot of help from people who thought it was terrible for us to reach this national security secret. we said we did not name this countries are you chicken. from the other side saw the camera and having run through some of these conversations from the cia or at the pentagon what rules would you write and what is

when it comes to the don minors of lindsey graham, chris christie, john kasich and jeb bush, when ito gave them money, those who decided to donate to second candidate have not been choosing donald trump, they've been choosing the democrat. they've been giving their money to hillary clinton, chris christie donors they're not uniting around the republican party nominee for president. they're uniting around hillary clinton. so, yes, donald trump is having some problems. when you look at the polls winning over some rank and file republican voters. he's not doing that bad with rank and file republicans he does have a real problem inside the republican party and it's with the republican donor class, the people writing big checks so many of them are so uncomfortable with donald trump representing their party as their nominee, that they're willing to give their money, instead, to the democrat, hillary clinton, that's the kind of election year we're watching, ladies and gentlemen. you don't see these every four years. that's going to do it for us tonight. now time for the last word with lawre

then we were invited to the graham, andand don bo josie, the publisher and myself, and the president was and the chairs that you see here. dick cheney, who glowered at me the whole time. and the national security advisor was around the whole time. and the president made the same presentation and then specifically about different types of harm. again, i asked a lot of and on the way out, again, i asked specific questions and then we would make a decision. we -- theonal decision would be made by him or the publisher. out, he said, you are not going to name those countries, are you? you could tell that that is where i was headed and where he was headed, never mind anybody else. furtherrther sought -- thought, that is what we did. as a result, we took a lot of hell from people who thought it was terrible for us to breach national security secrets. which of hell from other people who said you never mentioned those countries. what, are you chicken? >> from the other side of the camera, and i'm sure running through some of these conversations from the cia or the pentagon, what rules would y

don. thanks. >> okay. thank you, grahamjust ahead, we're going to crunch some numbers. new polls show hillary clinton leading donald trump. what's driving her surge, and what does trump need to do? with kindness" playing) play it again. (selena gomez's "kill 'em with kindness" playing) play it again. (selena gomez's "kill 'em with kindness" playing) play it again. (selena gomez's "kill 'em with kindness" restarts) play it again. (announcer vo) however you use your data, verizon has the best deal. now, get up to four free samsung galaxy phones, four lines, and 16 gigs for only $150. switch to verizon now for the best deal on america's best network. only on verizon. the fastest food truck min brooklyn. meet mylanta® tonight. it's also fast, but unlike godawgs, it makes heartburn after dinner, history. new mylanta® tonight. faster than heartburn. i don't want to lie down. i refuse to lie down. why suffer? stand up to chronic migraine... with botox®. botox® is the only treatment for chronic migraine shown to actually prevent he

graham does. jeff flake does. kelly ayotte does. susan collins does. i can go on and on and on so please donudge all republicans and let all of us bow our heads in respect and embrace gold star families with our arms, give them empathy, offer them support. it is not acceptable to compare the building after building to the sacrifice of losing a child. it is not acceptable to have your surrogates out there. comparing sacrificing a marriage to sacrificing the life after child. it is not acceptable to you know, compare the sacrifice of losing a child to anything else. so i just think we've got to chill out a little bit and put perspective and realize that the best thing to do is recognize that pain. recognize the sacrifice and you know, just be silent for a little bit. >> ana, katrina, guy, thank you. very tough conversation. for trump and clinton, the race is coming down to a handful of battle ground states. how many would either candidate need to edge out a win in november? we will do the math coming up next. it's not a banner that goes on a wall. it's not something you do now and then. or whe

don grand is really fantastic. it could be a very good member of the unit planetar interplane. there is this bridge between planetary scientists and cosmologists, and they don't want to consider making donald grahamseful member of the by maybe changing the cadence right of the state of health data files. maybe a slight change to the rate to collect the data, but why can't juno and don grand almost like the gps in reverse and basically locate things? thank you. guest: juno has a set of instruments, but on a them are capable of making those kinds of measurements at the really high energy that you suggest. it was not designed to be able to do that. , hi. davis in utah caller: yes. i would like to know how to live able to go out and harvest the asteroid belt? i will hang up. thank you. guest: that is a really exciting question because right now, we are getting ready to launch a spacecraft called osiris rexx on september 8. this mission is going to an asteroid. it will get there by 2018. and studyorbit it it and understand his composition. it will go down in a touch and go maneuver to suck up material and bring that material back for us to analyze. asterisk,lot about but one thing -- asteroids, but th