for don horen as a former deputy chief information officer for the state of new york, he says, fears about tick tock, alleged data harvesting are grounded in reality. and we've seen this out of the chinese government before where they pack in the systems data is, is so valuable today. and the fact that you have real time data on 150000000 people . it's concerning, it should be concerning to any country. i'm not saying that a ban of tick tock is the solution to everything. i think there's needs to be a lot of policy change in the united states to protect consumers, protect citizens in protector data. you look at take tax documents and says it gives access to any sort of device that's connected to the phone and it can associate the information from that phone to other information that that tick tock has. the direct evidence said, going back to the chinese government, i think i'll leave that up to the data to come to that conclusion and investigation . i think any social media application should be banned from government devices. only people that should have that sort of thing or are co