one with happiness the other one was the one with don junior.se observe. >> activist and coworkers, pretty girl woman. chelsea clinton. >> the son of the gentleman in the white house. jt. you did something that triggered a lot of people yesterday releasing the name of the whistleblower. that's something dictators do. >> thank you. >> you have heard a lot of people. >> are you thinking about it? >> i am not thinking about running. >> thank you. >> i know yelling. >> everybody stop, it's hard to give. >> it's a terrific book. [cheering] >> oh my god. i think they are a little biased. otherwise known as a circle of hell. i'd rather dominate a game of corporal. [laughter] [laughter] >> yes, doris. that's the deal. >> "the view"? >> yes. what you exactly is that? [laughter] we will you even get started. i guess good for them forth going on the shelf because the only thing we are missing pitchforks. i don't know what message they are trying to teach anyone but a lot of hypocrisy in there. meghan was talking about what your family has done to people. i

the president's support including his son don junior are speaking out about this, don junior says seems course for the small number of americans who still believe the media is objective, look no further. the media will always coverage of the benefit of the doubt to the left. laura trump highlighted the contrast in coverage when on the story. >> therapist with finding anything this president did wrong. he says something in the wrong tone they attack him yet when it comes to the democrats, a marketing arm for the democrat party by default. >> a number of employees unattended editorial board of bloomberg will be taking leave to join the campaign. jillian: i imagine a lot of people are upset about this. you can't do your job as a journalist without covering all sides of it. >> a lot of people talking about what is going on, blasting bloomberg and his media company, this guy is a clown. a rich one but still a clown. instagram user writing what happened to freedom of the press? andy posting he thinks trump is crooked. jillian: i wonder if they will change their tune, the backlash has come. >>

then there's don junior, outing the whistle-blower, the president's son outing the whistle-blower and trying to defend his actions on the show "the view" today. >> the whole point of releasing a name is to intimidate someone, to threaten someone and to scare other people from coming out. that's something that dictators do. >> i'm a private citizen putting this out there. if everyone in this room could have read this -- >> you're a campaign surrogate, though. >> he's a private citizen? okay. and that wasn't even the most explosive part of that interview. we have a lot more coming up for you. okay. now let's go on. how about now republican senator john kennedy, bullying the house speaker nancy pelosi again, right by the president's side. >> i don't mean any disrespect but it must suck to be that dumb. >> project much? here is the rule of thumb. if you start by saying you don't mean any disrespect, then you probably do. like i said, projection. there's also conspiracy theorists and roger stone ally alex jones, threatening to out a juror on stone's trial. and stone himself who prosecutors

so my guess is that whatever don junior did on "the view" was not adequate to repair the damage that'sdone because the president continues to harang john mccain, even in death. something else we talked about. yeah, i don't think that breach will ever be repaired. >> likely won't see an apology from the president. >> looking forward to seeing that. cindy mccain talks about her late husband and the state of the republican party on "the ax files" tomorrow night at 7:00 p.m. eastern time. >>> former vice president joe biden takes questions from voters in a presidential town hall live from iowa on monday night at 9:00 p.m. >>> new this morning, president trump's acting chief of staff mick mulvaney received a subpoena to go testify before congress this morning. he's not going to show up. will it make any difference? we'll ask a house democrat, next. that's why we're offering 50% off family lines for military, veterans and first responders. so they can stay connected, on our newest, most powerful signal ever. and now, we are also offering half off our top samsung phones for military, veterans

so i think don junior is positioning himself, whether it's in politics or just more broadly in the cults th heir to his father's legacy which means being a giant troll. and that is what he does. online, on tv. and i don't know him, but my guess is offline as well. that's who he is. this is, i think, a calculated personality designed to appeal to those people drawn to his dad. >> and they really are drawn to him as well. if you go to his rallies and watch his rallies. when he comes out and speaks on his father's behalf, people come to watch him just as much as to follow his father as well. >> all right, chris. always brilliant analysis. >> thank you all. have a good day. >> bye. >>> orangutans are being tlented at one of the largest rain forests in indonesia as it borns. the fires in borneo are a largely manmade fire to grow a cash crop. it puts one of the world's endangered animals at risk. ivan watson has more. >> reporter: a grinding battle deep in the jungle. firefighters on the indonesian island of borneo struggle to control a forest fire that threatens a national park. >> this is j

fruman parness and others who would come to include the president's own son don junior, promoted to smear campaign against her based on false allegations. at the state department there was an effort to push back. to obtain a statement of support from secretary pompeo. but those efforts failed when it became clear the president trump want to her. some of argued that a president has the ability to nominate or remove any investor he wants that they serve at the pleasure of the president. and that is true. the question before us is not whether donald trump could recall an american ambassador with a stellar reputation for fighting corruption in ukraine. but why would he want to. why did rudy giuliani want her gone. and why did donald trump. and why would dobut for that someone blew the whistle. ambassador yovanovitch was serving our nation's interest and fighting corruption in ukraine. she was considered an obstacle to the further its of the president's personal and political agenda. for that she was smeared and cast aside. but they are not absolute. and they cannot be used. the american peopl

the president's supporters including his son don junior speaking out tweeting seems par for the courseor the small number of americans who still believe the media is objective, the media will always cover for and give the benefit of the doubt to the left. >> finding anything this president did wrong, he said something in the wrong turn they attack him yet when it comes to democrats, marketing arm for the democrat party by default. >> a number of employees who work on the editorial board and opinion side of bloomberg will be taking a leave to join the campaign. >> we have a lot of comments coming in on this. >> many blasting bloomberg and his media company writing on facebook afraid that they will find something on you? nick tweeting the majority of media don't investigate democrats either. bloomberg news is just admitting it and sharon posting talk about an elitist hypocrite. seems like this might backfire but we will see. >> we will talk more about this coming up later on the show. let's talk about this later on the show. let's move to some monday night football, the ravens and the ra

are alleging, whether it's toward president trump or his family members, look how they went after don juniorafter him and tried to take down the company, meanwhile hunter hunter biden is legitimately corrupt. >> and they make excuses, it's not even that they ignore it. they proactively defend him. >> not only that but you saw the former ambassador to the ukraine give testimony, she was specifically asked, did you find this to be unnerving or were there any flags raised for you when you found out about hunter biden and she was like i thought it could have an appearance and they said were you alarmed when bill biden threatened the prosecutor with the money, no, it's like you see this unfold in there saying these things, it's really hard to be in the same planet that they're in right no now. it's absurd. >> i think one of the more unnerving things about the left campaign of destruction right now is that we are coming into this phase where we always seem to be in election-year mode, and its constant because before, there was a democrat president or republican and then we get into governing modem

you aware of any communications during the campaign, directly or indirectly, between roger stone, don junior rick gates and, a, wikileaks, b, julian assange, -- here's the president's written response. i recall in the months leading up to the election, there was considerable media reporting about the possible hacking and release of campaign-related information, but at this point in time, more than two years later, i have no recollection of any particular conversation, when it occurred, or who the participants were. and as it came out yesterday, josh, in court, rick gates remembers the conversation well. >> he does. >> between himself and the president. >> no, absolutely. this is why prosecutors and fbi agents typically don't sep written answers before a question. you want to sit before the person as an fbi agent and ask questions, follow-up questions. if it was me, i would have pulled out other evidence i may have had that may be corroborating, phone calls. i could say, what if i told you we had a witness who was a party to your conversation. you try to get someone to open up, you want to re

because if it's don junior, he has his right do it like i'm sure a lot of rich people do that. i never did because none of my books ever sell. but, if the rnc did it, then what that means is probably at the instructions of the president, they used people who had given them $25, $50, a lot of trump's working class supporters to help get republicans elected, they used it as a vanity project for don junior. >> sounds like a foundation. >> that's even worse. >> sounds like the trump found zblati dation. >> you don't think that's a standard for -- >> that's not always the standard for the best selling loose. >> you don't thinkon yun juro d writing is a tour deforce. >> this smells a lot like jim wright's scandal where people brought his books. >> yeah. >> so have him come speak. it's bad. >> all right. we'll have that still ahead on "morning joe." >> not bad. >>> former governor deval patrick joins the conversation on his first full day as the presidential candidate. >>> plus, newly revealed email showed exactly who stephen miller is. and what he believes. a look at the presidential

they had come to include the president's own son, don junior, promoted a smear campaign on her based on false allegations. there was an effort to push back to get a statement of support from secretary pompeo, but they failed when it became clear that president trump wanted her gone. so have argued that the president can nominate and remove whoever head wants. and that is true. the question is not whether or not he could recall an ambassador with a stellar reputation for fighting corruption in you yukraine, but would he want to. why did rudy rudy giuliani want gone. and why would they want to work with the same man that rudy giuliani played such a key role in the smear campaign against her. rudy giuliani made no secret about the question to open an investigation against the bidens. as he said in one interview, we're not meddling in an election, we're meddling in an investigation which we have a right to do. more recently he told cnn's chris cuomo, "of course i did" when asked if he pressed ukraine to investigate joe biden. and he has never been shy about who he is doing this work for,

we're talking about the contentious interview that don junior, i think hits fair to say his girlfriend, the former fox news host kimberley -- >> when he was whining about the whistle-blower and how it was unfair the way people are responding to outing the whistle-blower, which the outrage is justified versus what he had, the issue to his family, something very different than anybody else, he has secret service protection because he's the son of the president. this whistle-blower doesn't have that same luxury, and that's why we have protections for whistle blowers and because they are in the intelligence community. there's a separate set of rules and laws that protect their identity as well. it's a despicable thing and complete distraction anyway because the whistle-blower complaint doesn't matter anyway -- >> as the president's son he should have -- he should be held to a higher standard. >> i want to make something very clear. joy did not wear blackface. that is one of the many, many lies he told sitting at that table and i'm glad she corrected it immediately. go look up the picture.

. >> not a lot of people have pictures not only with the president but don junior, but in small, smalls, not just in a photo line and small groups and lots of time with rudy giuliani, who of course is very close to trump. >> shimon, we now have this ex-ambassador to the ukraine's testimony, and you point to this excerpt from yovanovitch. ukrainians were wondering whether i was going to be leaving, whether we really represented the president, u.s. policy, et cetera. so i think it was, you know -- it really kind of cut the ground out from under us. you read that, and you thought this is why the sdny is involved. explain the connection with what's happening with new york, with giuliani and what we're seeing in this testimony. >> i think all of this, when you read her testimony -- and keep in mind, prosecutors in new york, in the southern district of new york, have read this today as well. so they're going through this, and they're trying to look for clues in all of this for their investigation. it is centered around the removal of yovanovitch. and so they're looking at what was going on h

when facts have been entered into the public debate, whether it was the mueller indictments, the don junior call, the needle has moved. there's a reason why the numbers are going up despite the fact that there hasn't been a single hearing. i actually go forward a little bit, because he's going to be impeached. that is a foregone conclusion. he is unlikely to be removed. but what is hopeful is that balance will be restored come november 4th, the day after the election, which is barely a year from now. what hopefully will happen is the republican senators in particular will pay a steep price for politicizing it. in which case it is possible the next time we need this, it won't be taken as trivially. the problem with 1998 is basically the republicans neutered impeachment. >> because they did it in a lame duck session. >> the flip side of that that i can see since you say that is, imagine a precedent in which impeachment becomes routine and is essentially just a no confidence vote that as long as you hold together your caucus. like the more that we see partisan polarization do its battle, you c

the president's son don junior joked, i've heard from reliable sources that it's not doctored.edly doctored the already doctored photo by adding conan, the hero dog. the president, at the moment, seems to have his chest on the brain. at his latest rally, he railed at the press for supposedly saying he'd had a heart attack when he went to recall twalter hospital the other day. >> they say he's not wearing a tie. take off your shirt, sir, show us your gorgeous chest. >> reporter: that gorgeous chest on a guy who once told reuters, i get exercise. i mean, i walk, i this, i that. fake torso trump was compared with real bare-chested putin. who wore it better? some critics rubbed it in. #obama didn't need photo shop. president clinton's former press secretary tweeted, now we know what they did to him at walter reed. in that case, i want what he's having. jeanne moos, cnn. new york. >> i have no words other than thanks for joining us. ac 360 starts right now. >> from america's mayor, perhaps to america's defendant, tonight rudy giuliani's potential legal problems are mounting and now

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number one son, don junior, trying to out the whistle-blower today, and lindsey graham really working overtime in his defense of the president, saying this on fox news tonight. >> the whistle-blower needs to be named, and we need to be able to cross-examine that person for any bias. >> hmm. that after senator rand paul took to the stage with the president monday and said this. >> i say tonight to the media, do your job and print his name! and i say this to my fellow colleagues in congress, to every republican in washington, step up and subpoena hunter biden and subpoena the whistle-blower. >> hmm. he could always put it out there himself. i mean if you want to. it wouldn't be the right thing, but why don't you do it instead of asking other people to do your dirty work. but here's the thing. the identity of the whistle-blower is just a red herring at this point, okay? we've moved way past that. we've got hours and hours of testimony, and then there's more to come. the whistle-blower's identity is besides the point, and it's all about the facts. remember, facts first. stick to the subst

the president's son don junior joked, i've heard from reliable sources that it's not doctored.oggedly doctored the already doctored photo by adding conan the hero dog. >> the president at the moment seems to have his chest on the brain. >> at his latest rally, he railed at the press for supposedly saying he'd had a heart attack when he went to walter reed hospital the other day. >> they said he wasn't wearing a tie. if the first thing they do is they take off your -- sir, show us that gorgeous chest. >> that gorgeous chest on a guy who once told reuters i get exercise. i mean, i walk. i this, i that. fake torso trump was compared with real bare chested putin. who wore it better? some critics rubbed it in. #obama didn't need photoshop. president clinton's former press secretary tweeted, now we know what they did to him at walter reed. in that case, i want what he's having. jeanne moos, cnn, new york. >> oh, my gosh. my mother showed me that doctored photo yesterday at thanksgiving. she was like, do you think this is real. i said put down the video. >> do you think it's real? >>

listen to don junior. >> my father put the transcript out. read it.thing else is opinion. >> mm-hmm. >> read the transcript and make your decision from there. >> and on monday night at a campaign rally, supporters were wearing those "read the transcript" t-shirts, which seemed kind of odd. just to be clear, the summary of the call does not exonerate the president, and now there is more than 1,200 pages of testimony from administration officials, career officials, and they seem to be painting a very clear picture of exactly what happened. >> that's exactly right. by the way, the transcript itself paints a fairly clear picture. that's where trump says "we need a favor, though," and proceeds to say what zelensky has to do. so it's this funny kind of brazen move to say "read the transcript" when i guess they're thinking nobody will. it's just another kind of slogan that will keep people revved up. but you're right. the much fuller version is all the much more damning. and today the source matters. so sondland first of all, he's correcting what was obvious

why did don junior suggest that he wanted to accept information from a russian lawyer? this is embarrassing on the inside, and on the outside i think it's chump change. i don't think it's that significant at the core of the investigation. >> can i make one point? >> go ahead. >> for the most part i agree with phil. let's remember this fisa application, the investigation in the carter page was a small part of a massive, sprawling investigation into russian interference. this fisa -- you somebody said it was, you know, 10%, even less. i mean carter page was not a big player in this, so let's not magnify the significance of this. this was a huge investigation, and that's part of -- i think that's part of what's going to be the criticisms that, you know, the fbi didn't bring more people into this, right, because they were afraid -- actually were afraid it was going to leak, which it didn't. >> adam goldman, thank you for reporting. phil, thank you. jeffrey toobin, i appreciate it. >>> next, remember yesterday when fiona hill warned against embracing another conspiracy, whic

why did don junior suggest that he wanted to accept information from a russian lawyer?his is embarrassing on the inside and the outside i think it's chump change. >> ki make one point? i think -- for the most part i agree with phil. let's remember this fisa application, the investigation into carter page was a small part of a massive sprawling investigation into russian interference. this fisa, you know, somebody said, you know, it was 10% even less, i mean carter page was not a big player in this so let's not magnify the significance of this. this was a huge investigation and that's part -- i think that's part of what will be the criticisms that, you know, the fbi didn't bring more people into this, right? because they were afraid -- actually were afraid he was going to leak which it didn't. >> adam goldman, thanks for your reporting, phil mud, thanks and jeffrey toobin, thanks for sitting next to me. facts and the impact, remember yesterday when fiona hill warned against embracing another conspiracy which also happens to be russia's cover story about the 2016 election

and what about one of your colleagues, rand paul, calling for the whistle-blower to be outed, now don junior has released a name they purport to be the whistle-blower. whether or not it's illegal, what about whistle-blower protections and the chilling effect on others, for a senator, rand paul to be doing this? >> it's absolutely disgusting what republicans are doing to try to out the name and the identity of this whistle-blower. for a long time republicans and democrats agreed on a simple fact that if you are blowing the when i felt on government corruption we should protect you. and what republicans are saying is it's okay, if you're blowing the whistle on a democratic administration but if you blow the when i feistle on a republi administration, we're coming after you. nobody asks questions about who called in the fire department when you see the fire in front of your eyes. this whistle-blower testified to a corruption scheme that now trump administration officials by the dozen have testified to as well. so this is just a smear campaign. it's an effort for republicans to try to distract t

others who would come to include the president's own son, don junior, promoted a smear campaign against her based on false allegations. at the state department, there was an effort to push back to obtain a statement of support from secretary pompeo, but those efforts failed when it became clear that president trump wanted her gone. some have argued that a president has the ability to nominate or remove any ambassador he wants, that they serve at the pleasure of the president, and that is true. the question before us is not whether or not donald trump could recall a foreign ambassador with a stellar reputation for fighting corruption in ukraine, but why would he want to? why did rudy giuliani want her gone, and why did donald trump? and why would donald trump instruct the new team he put in place, the three amigos, gordon sondland, rick perry and kurt volker to work with the same man, rudy giuliani, to play such a role in the smear campaign against her? it is because of the desire to investigate the bidens, as well as the interference into the 2016 election. as he said in an interview, w

he's actually excited about the holiday because this year eric and don junior are going to pull the wishbone that agreement. thanksgiving dinner with a side of impeachment. a preview of what families nationwide will be nav getting a today. not a recipe for calm dinner in this political environment. what are some ways to keep things from getting out of hand today? darryl west joins me with strategies for that. he's the author of divided politics, divided nation, hyper conflict in the trump era. and back with us shermichael singleton and emily. all right, darryl, you wrote the book on this. you came one six ways to handle trump's impeachment during holiday dinners. please walk us through that list. >> yeah. i mean, certainly impeachment is going to come up and it's a polarized time in america. 30% of american marriages are divided by politics. this may be a thanksgiving when people should use plastic forks and knives in order to make sure that things don't get out of hand. but in terms of the strategies, certainly avoidance is the classic strategy, just not talking about it because people know

don junior, jared kushner and donald trump, meeting after meeting, we've got to get those emails, and then michael flynn, again, the national foreign policy adviser says, look, i got intelligence connections. i've got the hook-up. i'm going to look into getting those emails. and what do we know? we know that trump made these speeches in which he seemed to have advance knowledge that emails that russia and russian operatives stole, they stole them to help donald trump win the election. donald trump seemed to know when some of these emails were something. again, he said he had to have them. he got them. and he deployed those russian-hacked emails to advance his campaign to get in the oval office. >> paul, to your point, also in the documents, and i'm sorry i didn't show this before. gates said donald trump jr. would ask where the emails were in family meetings. flynn, kushner, manafort, redacted, lewandowski and jeff sessions expressed interest in obtaining the emails as well. the priority focuses were clinton's emails and contributions to the clinton foundation. and it goes on and on a

the president's allies including his son don junior on "the view" claimed the ukrainians never even knewmilitary aid was withheld by the united states, so how could there be a quid pro quo? how could there be pressure or muscle? these witnesses, among other things, said they got frantic phone calls and meetings with their ukrainian counterparts who were wondering where that aid was. this is at the same time that other members of the administration were demanding investigations of the bidens and of the 2016 election so the conclusion is the ukrainians could add two plus two and they got the pressure. >> terry, meantime, there is some jockeying inside the white house among potential witnesses about whether top officials like mick mulvaney and john bolton, the former national security adviser, will actually testify in these hearings. >> reporter: yeah, mick mulvaney, the acting chief of staff, is acting a little oddly here. the president has ordered him and other top aides not to testify in these impeachment inquiry hearings, but mulvaney has now decided he wants a court to tell him whether

is it illegal what the senator is calling to have done and what don junior did? >> it is. and what i find most astounding about this is we are talking about a sitting senator, rand paul, calling for someone to break the law. we have a whistle-blower statute. it protects people to come forward and basically talk about any wrongdoing that they've observed. why do we have that? so that we can sort of avoid corruption. oh, by the way, isn't that the reason that donald trump said that he wanted -- he was concerned about corruption in ukraine? so you would think if you really are concerned about corruption if that really is the issue that burns at your heart, the one thing you would do is be happy about a whistle-blower. you would be happy about someone will be to come forward and say, hey, listen, this is what i've observed, and i think it's illegal and important for everybody to know that. but what is so dangerous about this is we are again seeing with rand paul, with donald trump and people who support him a shifting of the norms. the norms in this country or we would like to

yovanovitch testified that she asked for advice on how to handle attacks from sean hannity and don junior. you need to tweet out there that you support the president and all these are lies and everything else. she said it was, quote, advice i did not see how i could implement in my role as an ambassador and as a foreign service officer. there was also another reference to sean hannity, his attacks apparently went from fox news prime time to the top of the state department. yovanovitch said she was told the secretary or someone around him would call hannity to see if he had proof of the allegations against her and if not to stop it, hannity claims the call never happened. and here's what the president said about the former ambassador when questioned by nbc's kristen welker. >> was marie yovanovitch the target of a smear campaign by -- >> i really don't know her. >> like she testified she was? >> if you look at the transcripts, the president of ukraine was not a fach hen of h either. he did not exactly say glowing things. i'm sure she's a very fine woman, i just don't know much about her. >

in kentucky, gave some context around the identity of the whistle-blower that led some people, don junior posting potential names, retweeting reports from variouswomen websitvarious websites and who it might be. what's the danger in outing the whistle-blower? >> republicans have made the best case for protecting whistle-blowers back when they were using them when they were investigating barack obama. in 2012, 2014, they filed a brief with the supreme court arguing for protecting whist whistle-blowers saying that if you allow the government to go in and out whistle-blowers, it could have a chilling effect on holding the executive accountable. whistle-blowers are crucial to helping congress hold the executive accountable. congress, as they've said, can't be everywhere all the time, it's a big government, a lot going on and money moved around. they have said publicly multiple times we need whistle-blowers to be our eyes and ears within the federal government to expos wrongdoing, waste, fraud, mismanagement. they authored new legislation back in 2012 to enhance whistle-blower security because

lutsenko, giuliani, fruman, parnas and others who would come to include the president's own own don juniorons. at the state department there was an effort to push back to obtain a statement of support from secretary pompeo. but those efforts failed when it became clear that president trump wanted her gone. some have argued that a president has the ability to nominate or remove any ambassador he wants. that they serve at the pleasure of the president. and that is true. the question before us is not whether donald trump could recall an american ambassador with a stellar reputation for fighting corruption in ukraine, but why would he want to? why did rudy giuliani want her gone? and why did trump? and why would donald trump instruct the new team he put in place, the three amigos, gordon sondland, rick perry and kurt volker to work with the same man, rudy giuliani, who played such a central role in the smear campaign against her. rudy giuliani has made no secret of his desire to get ukraine to open investigations into the bidens, as well as the conspiracy theory of ukrainian interference in th

don junior said nothing new. and donald trump the night before saying you have to do this for me.g this is all about me, this is all about trump. bevin has to win or if he doesn't, this will be the biggest loss in the history of american politics. >> and campaigned on trump's name. >> and that's all bevin did. >> in a state that trump won, correct? >> by 30 points. >> wow. so you would think he would have the momentum. >> we are going to get to what happened, again, in the cincinnati suburbs which, once again, shows that donald trump is toxic. but the second story this morning, more dog chasing tail. as you actually had lindsey graham, a month ago, going, well, i suppose if they show prid quo pro, well, then that would be really, really serious. >> yeah. and we'll deal with it. >> so sondland came out yesterday in a shocking development. we're going to show you how that moved. and now lindsey graham, what is he saying? he's not even pretending to be an honest man or a fair dealer. he's going, i'm just not paying attention to it no more. i'm just shutting my brain down. i'm just go