those that don't know me, i'm don kerr, i've been associated with a null of organizations over the years. but i think one of the things that came you up here that i feel is most important is the need to pay great ar tension to pakistan and be realistic about what it is. some of you recall when we got to exploit some of sites in afghanistan what we found was, of course, the evidence that tarnac farms about long-term interest ta al qae that al qaeda had in other weapons and other kind of technology. not only that people that supported that effort were in fact mostly retirees from the pakistani nuclear program. if the retirees felt it was important to support al qaeda, one must ask those currently in the program share those views in some manner. it's something, i think we into the to root out. we also need to understand that, when we leave afghanistan, it once again becomes part of pakistan's defense and depth against what they consider their real enbemy, india. it's healed a bit by the mumbai attack, they talk once in a while now. but in fact, we're a pawn in the game they've been playing

. >> for those who do not know me, i am don kerr, i have been associated with a number of organizations over the years. one of the things that came up here is the most important, the need to pay greater attention to pakistan and be realistic about what it is. some of you will recall that when we got to exploit some of the sides in afghanistan, what we found is the evidence at tarnac farms and long term interests al qaeda have. other kinds of weapons and other kinds of technology. not only that, people that supported that effort were mostly retirees from the pakistani nuclear program. if the retirees felt it was important to support al qaeda, one might ask whether people currently in the program share those views in some manner. it is something that we need to prove out. we also need to understand that when we leave afghanistan, it once again becomes part of pakistan's defense in depth against what they consider their real enemy, india. it has killed a bit as a consequence of the mumbai attack. they talk once in awhile now. in fact, we are a pawn in the game they have been playing in ter

. >> for those who do not know me, i am don kerr, i have been associated with a number of organizations over the years. one of the things that came up here is the most important, the need to pay greater attention to pakistan and be realistic about what it is. some of you will recall that when we got to exploit some of the sides in afghanistan, what we found is the evidence at tarnac farms and long term interests al qaeda have. other kinds of weapons and other kinds of technology. not only that, people that supported that effort were mostly retirees from the pakistani nuclear program. if the retirees felt it was important to support al qaeda, one might ask whether people currently in the program share those views in some manner. it is something that we need to prove out. -- root out. we also need to understand that when we leave afghanistan, it once again becomes part of pakistan's defense in depth against what they consider their real enemy, india. it has killed a bit as a -- it has healed a bit as a consequence of the mumbai attack. they talk once in awhile now. in fact, we are a pawn