good evening don lawrence -- .one of the reasons donald trump went to ohio, was because a congressman -- tim ryan. tim ryan will be joining us later in the hour to respond to the trump attacks. it's pretty impressive. he just recently announced, on this program actually, he's running for senate in ohio. you would think that tim ryan

good evening don lawrence -- . evening don lawrence -- one of the reasons donald trump went to ohio, was because a congressman -- tim ryan. tim ryan will be joining us later in the hour to respond to the trump attacks. it's pretty impressive. he just recently announced, on this program actually, he's running for senate in ohio. you would think that tim ryan had some hugely -- that had to stop. the way donald trump announced their ham shows how strong a candidate i think tim ryan can be there. >> it also just like, you know, and political combat, it's one thing to like, kind of size up the relative political size of each of the contenders and like, trump taking the shots at congressman ryan, obviously, as you say, it says something about his chances of winning that senate seat. but you look at trump right now it's like, yeah, so, did you still want to go to i'll hire once you learn that your business was probably gonna get indicted the tuesday afterwards? you know [laughs] when he's worried about what he's got on hi

lawrence. >> good evening, rachel. two years in the making, i've got mine here. the judiciary committee transcript of the don mcgahn testimony. only took me two years to get that testimony. we're going to be joined tonight by judiciary committee member eric swalwell. and andrew weisman. because as you know, and as you are describing in your hour, so much of this testimony was about the mueller investigation and donald trump's attempts to block the mueller investigation. fire robert mueller. jeff andrew weissmann was on the other end of that stuff and wondering exactly what the president was up to. they documented a lot of it in the mueller report. but andrew weissmann has actually learned some things about don mcgahn as a result of this testimony. so that's going to be. interesting >> and i know mr. weisman was invoked by name during the testimony himself. which i'm sure was a comfortable situation from it. he's right in the middle of this stuff. >> yeah, we're going to get right to that, rachel. >> all right, lawrence. thank you. >> thank you. as i said, it was two years, two years ago, the judiciary commit

lawrence. thank you. >> thank you. >>> well, as i said, it was two years, two years ago the house judiciary committee subpoenaed trump white house counsel don mcgahn to testify about what he had already testified about in interviews with special counsel robert mueller whose investigation of russia's interference in the 2016 election to help donald trump had also become an investigation of obstruction of justice by donald trump because of donald trump's interference with the mueller investigation itself. two years after that subpoena was issued and after fighting the subpoena in court, don mcgahn finally agreed to testify to the house judiciary committee last friday under the condition basically that it not be on tv. so the hearing was held behind closed doors on friday, and the transcript was released today. don mcgahn's new testimony we learn that he was one of the many leakers of information to the news media in the trump white house, and we got new clarity on don mcgahn's personal fear of being charged with a crime by special counsel robert mueller. as the mueller report revealed, donald trump repeatedly discussed firing the attorney gen

lawrence. >> good evening, rachel. two years in the making, i've got mine here. the judiciary committee transcript of the doniciary committee member eric swalwell. and andrew weisman. because as you know, and as you are describing in your hour, so much of this testimony was about the mueller investigation and donald trump's attempts to

lawrence o'donnell. good evening. >> good evening, rachel. two years in the making, i have mine here, the judiciary committee transcript of the don mcgahn testimony