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don mcgahn has really been the architect of trump's judicial prospects, and he has gone about tryingourts all the way down the bench. you don't know whether don mcgahn will be there next year because he's made very clear to people he doesn't know that he's going to last past the midterms, so better to do it now. there were other messages quietly sent -- if you're not going to retire now, best to wait until after 2020. >> right. >> and so, i think that all of that put together, i don't think that there was an effort to push kennedy. i don't even think that would have been well received, but i certainly think there was a message sent to, you know, this is going to be fine if you go ahead with this, and that's part of why you're seeing the white house want to move quickly on this. >> and we will, part of that messaging, that massaging, almost, we'll make sure this protects your legacy, your judicial legacy. >> that's right, correct. and i think you're going to see that in whatever choice the president makes. again, there's this list of, it's now 24 people. i think that the actual number
don mcgahn has really been the architect of trump's judicial prospects, and he has gone about tryingourts all the way down the bench. you don't know whether don mcgahn will be there next year because he's made very clear to people he doesn't know that he's going to last past the midterms, so better to do it now. there were other messages quietly sent -- if you're not going to retire now, best to wait until after 2020. >> right. >> and so, i think that all of that put together, i...
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and that don mcgahn will shepherd this whole process. tell me moving forward what this selection process even looks like. >> and one other loosened there. i think it really comes down to he is you wereis turning 82. he was starting to look a little weary. and one other note about this term. i don't want to mislead you to think that i saw this coming because i really didn't think he was going to go. but here is one thing i thought about. this was a term when john roberts the chief justice seemed to own the cases more than usual. typically anthony kennedy is not just the swing vote, he has been the man who wrote up the legal reasoning. and in case after case this term, roberts had a little bit more control. i'll just mention the partisan gerrymandering one that roberts kept for positihimself and kenn didn't even write in. and so i just want to mention that kennedy in some ways seemed to be withdrawing from the court during this term in terms of aggressive approach. now, going forward, we know several names on the list. they have been on fo
and that don mcgahn will shepherd this whole process. tell me moving forward what this selection process even looks like. >> and one other loosened there. i think it really comes down to he is you wereis turning 82. he was starting to look a little weary. and one other note about this term. i don't want to mislead you to think that i saw this coming because i really didn't think he was going to go. but here is one thing i thought about. this was a term when john roberts the chief justice...
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would have happened, that he never would have given up executive privilege, let be people like don mcgahn talk to mueller and who knows how many leads provided to mueller. that is something that people regret, the st of open willingness to cooperate definitely. that's a different question, that's a different question, though. that's a different question from do they believe the president has the power to pardon himself, do they believe the president can be indict. no, no, they don't believe those things. questn is could they debate. already be in deep enough hot water at this point because of the way they approached it? because of all that mueller already -- mueller is sort of the silent participant in all this, but it's very likely bet jonathan and i were just talking about, because of how much they cooperated, because of don mcgahn has told them, and just about probably more than half of that senior staff has been before bob mueller. do they already know enough? rudy giuliani sounds like he's speaking for a man he believes to be guilty. when he's talking about the presid being, he's ram
would have happened, that he never would have given up executive privilege, let be people like don mcgahn talk to mueller and who knows how many leads provided to mueller. that is something that people regret, the st of open willingness to cooperate definitely. that's a different question, that's a different question, though. that's a different question from do they believe the president has the power to pardon himself, do they believe the president can be indict. no, no, they don't believe...
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sources say chief of staff john kelly and don mcgahn advocated against it.lso on the list, martha stewart. though a source familiar says the president has cooled on that idea. >> we're going to make donald's favorite sandwich. >> reporter: stuaewart was foun guilty of lying to investigators about suspicious stock trades. >> governor, i have great respect for you. >> reporter: he was convicted on 17 corruption charges impeached for trying to sole a u.s. senate seat. the president tweeted saying he has the absolute right to pardon himself. his willingness to ignore justice department guidelines on issuing pardons has democrats worried he'll use it to help allies caught up in the investigation into russian meddling in the election in 2017. >> unfortunately the president has perverted the pardon process. now it seems like he's pardoning people based on their celebrity status or because a celebrity talked to him. >> reporter: as he did when he pardoned joe arpiao last year. the white house is playing down reports that relations are souring over new u.s.adian stea
sources say chief of staff john kelly and don mcgahn advocated against it.lso on the list, martha stewart. though a source familiar says the president has cooled on that idea. >> we're going to make donald's favorite sandwich. >> reporter: stuaewart was foun guilty of lying to investigators about suspicious stock trades. >> governor, i have great respect for you. >> reporter: he was convicted on 17 corruption charges impeached for trying to sole a u.s. senate seat. the...
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. >>> don mcgahn is expected to lead the search for a new justice which will begin immediately. let's bring in kaitlin collins at the white house. and kennedy and the president talked for about half an hour today, the president said. what were they talking about. >> reporter: they did. and it was about half an hour before the news broke that kennedy would retire and president trump sounding surprised that reporters didn't see him enter the white house at any point. but he does say they had a conversation and he tremendous respect for kennedy but also said he asked him who he thought he should replace him with on the court and kennedy made some recommendations but he doesn't disclose who he recommended to him but there is a great deal of excitement in the white house they are going to have floerj chance to nominate someone to the supreme court. >> and do we have any idea who president trump might be considering as a replacement? >> reporter: well president trump made big news in the oval office saying he will choose from the list of 25 potential nominees that the white house put
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is an important precedent, and it is settled law. >> here she is talking about her meeting with don mcgahn. okay. i told him there are several well qualified people on the list whom i've supported. there's one person on the list who i voted against and i urged him to broaden the search beyond the list which is not to say there are not good people on the list. those are a lot of words, i'm not sure they mean a lot. are democrats foolish to put their hopes in lisa murkowski and susan collins. >> i don't think they are foolish. can i say this? mitch mcconnell just plays in the gutter. you cannot trust mitch mcconnell. the rules for mitch mcconnell work only when he says so. so we -- that's just not going to work right there. i go back to a year ago, we talked about this earlier joy, which was happening, the aca, the skinny repeal, last july, and people didn't think we were going to stop that. they thought for sure obamacare is going to be repealed, it wasn't going to hold. who were the three people that voted no? mccain was the dramatic one so we remember that one, but it was also collins and
is an important precedent, and it is settled law. >> here she is talking about her meeting with don mcgahn. okay. i told him there are several well qualified people on the list whom i've supported. there's one person on the list who i voted against and i urged him to broaden the search beyond the list which is not to say there are not good people on the list. those are a lot of words, i'm not sure they mean a lot. are democrats foolish to put their hopes in lisa murkowski and susan...
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the white house counsel, don mcgahn, he said this is not a good idea. we need to come up with a cleaner reason for this. the president's letter was rambling, it went on and on. so rooipsenstein offers to writ the memo, the memo is the reason the white house uses to explain the comey firing. they stand on the white house lawn the night of the firing and read from the letter and explain that comey had too go because he was too harsh on hillary clinto clinton. >> if you've realized for month perhaps that rosenstein felt he was used and didn't feel he was being accurate and honest about the reasons for the firing, what would that tell you about obstruction of justice? >> well, mueller's known this probably for a year. this is nothing that is that new. >> but the public didn't know it. >> the public did not. but this is the thing. this is a very important period of time. it's a little more than a week between when comey is fired and mueller is appointed and what trump defenders and trump's lawyers would say, they'd say, well, rosenstein was more than happy t
the white house counsel, don mcgahn, he said this is not a good idea. we need to come up with a cleaner reason for this. the president's letter was rambling, it went on and on. so rooipsenstein offers to writ the memo, the memo is the reason the white house uses to explain the comey firing. they stand on the white house lawn the night of the firing and read from the letter and explain that comey had too go because he was too harsh on hillary clinto clinton. >> if you've realized for month...
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may be someone who is in line to become the next white house counsel if and when the current one don mcgahn leaves. >> that doesn't sound like much of a prize these days. let me ask you, and i want to hear your thoughts on this, too, frank figliuzzi. this seems to me that the analog in law enforcement is what it was in race relation s to charlottesville. we now have a moment where the president has disgraced every respectable figure in legal circles and law enforcement with his daily -- and today hourly smears against the fbi and bob mueller, someone who is a recipient of a purple heart and other medals for his service in vietnam. how does no one quit when the president is constantly tweeting smears about law enforcement? >> one word, power. he's the president. >> power to do what? >> to be in power, to have power, the president is the most powerful guy in the world and they are defending his hold on that office. this president was only possible as a president because americans were mistrustful of all their institutions. he came in the house because of that. it is no surprise to me that his
may be someone who is in line to become the next white house counsel if and when the current one don mcgahn leaves. >> that doesn't sound like much of a prize these days. let me ask you, and i want to hear your thoughts on this, too, frank figliuzzi. this seems to me that the analog in law enforcement is what it was in race relation s to charlottesville. we now have a moment where the president has disgraced every respectable figure in legal circles and law enforcement with his daily --...
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nothing that democrats can do to stop this and nbc news learned tonighthat the top white house lawyer don mcgahn y.alled to discuss the vaca a sign that the white house knows how critical they will be to the knockdo, drag out fight ahead. lester. >> kasie hunt, thanks. >>> to explosive moments on capitol hill as horee blicans grilled fbi director christopher wray and pu attorney general rod rosenstein. republicans urging rosenstein to wrap up the russia investigwhich he's overseeing and democrats fighting back. our chief white house correspondent hallie jackson has more. >> reporter: inside a a house hearing room political production. >> i'm reading what pr ths said. >> i would suggest you not rely on the press. >> who should we believe? clear it's not king personal, mr. jordan. >> believe me because i'm telling the truth and i'm under oath. >> reporter: the hearing focused on fbi actions during the hillary clinton e-mail investigation in 2016 and that senior agent working on the russia investigation at the time who exchanged anti trump text messages with a colleague he was the agent saying we'l
nothing that democrats can do to stop this and nbc news learned tonighthat the top white house lawyer don mcgahn y.alled to discuss the vaca a sign that the white house knows how critical they will be to the knockdo, drag out fight ahead. lester. >> kasie hunt, thanks. >>> to explosive moments on capitol hill as horee blicans grilled fbi director christopher wray and pu attorney general rod rosenstein. republicans urging rosenstein to wrap up the russia investigwhich he's...
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don mcgahn has called knowuse to this knock-down-drag-out fight. lester? >> now to some explosive moments also on capitol hill as house republicans grilled fbi director christopher wray and deputy attorney general rod rosenstein. republicans urging rosenstein to wrap up the russia investigation, which he's overseeing. democrats firing back. our chief white house correspondent hallie jackson has fore for us tonight. >> reporter: inside a house hearing room, a political production. >> i'm read what the press said. >> i would suggest you not rely on what the press says. >> who are we supposed to believe. >> thank you for making clear it's not personal, mr. jordan. >> reporter: the hearing ostensibly focused on fbi actions during the hillary clinton e-mail investigation in 2016. and that senior agent working on the russia investigation at the time who exchanged anti-trump text messages with a colleague he was having an affair with. at one point, agent peter strzok saying of a trump presidency, we'll stop it. >> these people were also the very same people who w
don mcgahn has called knowuse to this knock-down-drag-out fight. lester? >> now to some explosive moments also on capitol hill as house republicans grilled fbi director christopher wray and deputy attorney general rod rosenstein. republicans urging rosenstein to wrap up the russia investigation, which he's overseeing. democrats firing back. our chief white house correspondent hallie jackson has fore for us tonight. >> reporter: inside a house hearing room, a political production....
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>> well, i have heard don mcgahn, white house counsel, say in a public place in an interview with me,d trump's list. put it together. you know, there's a lot of things that trump has said in the course of his life that i regret and he regrets. but it would be wrong to forget, he said some simply beautiful thing about the rights of the people to rule. they go to before he got into politics. so i think he sees that. >> the russia investigation goes on. it was very contentious in the house this week. it promises to go on for months and months more. what do you think of that, and what do you think its result is going to be? >> well, it's -- you know, it's a puzzle at the top or near the top of our constitutional system. how you control the people who enforce the law. and we have ordinary ways of doing that for all offices except the president. and, you know, special prosecutors are common. and government history. a fair number at the federal level. if you appoint somebody with the power to prosecute the president, then that person can potentially control the president. that person is not
>> well, i have heard don mcgahn, white house counsel, say in a public place in an interview with me,d trump's list. put it together. you know, there's a lot of things that trump has said in the course of his life that i regret and he regrets. but it would be wrong to forget, he said some simply beautiful thing about the rights of the people to rule. they go to before he got into politics. so i think he sees that. >> the russia investigation goes on. it was very contentious in the...
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send his own four-page letter to comey about why he should be fired and the white house counsel, don mcgahn looked at that letter and said, this is not a good idea. the president had mentioned the fact that comey said he wasn't under investigation in russia, but the letter was rambling, it went on and on like one of the president's stump speeches. what happens is mcgahn brings in sessions and rosenstein who were already interested in getting rid of comey, and they used sessions and rosenstein as the rationale for the comey firing, as the explanation for it. and people find it funny because donald trump is essentially saying jim comey was too mean to hillary clinton. >> and, frank figliuzzi, there is some extraordinary irony in the layers of rod rosenstein being peeled back the day after such brutal attacks from members of his own party. rosenstein, a lifelong republican under blistering attacks from republicans in the house judiciary committee. when it turns out he wasn't ever comfortable being the fall guy for the president's decision to fire jim comey. >> yeah, so yesterday was quite a di
send his own four-page letter to comey about why he should be fired and the white house counsel, don mcgahn looked at that letter and said, this is not a good idea. the president had mentioned the fact that comey said he wasn't under investigation in russia, but the letter was rambling, it went on and on like one of the president's stump speeches. what happens is mcgahn brings in sessions and rosenstein who were already interested in getting rid of comey, and they used sessions and rosenstein...
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. >> you highlight -- there's an annotated version of this memo and you highlight a memo from don mcgahn. the fbi told him they were closing it out. why is that so novel here? you highlight this as being pivotal. >> yeah, we're in the weeds but it's a central question of the mueller investigation is about the president's obstruction and whether by the president asking comey to end the investigation, was he committed obstruction. and what the memo is arguing, they're saying the white house did not think there was an investigation because the fbi told them they were done, that they had concluded their investigation. so they're saying how could the president have gone to comey in february of 2017 and asked him to end an investigation that the white house did not think existed? >> how much does this have to do about optics? i look at the memo and the arguments they make about him testify. "having him testify demeans the office of the president before the world." you have one about optics. i'm not sure how grounded that is in the law but how much does this argument rest on that, the notty of
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but when he's talking about due process, the reason people have a don mcgahn asylum process is to seether they deserve to be let into the country or not. to decide by fee at that they should be allowed to, or send them over the border to mexico, that's why we have a constitution. >> this was a story that was on undercover. the former homeland security chief jay johnson talking about not only child separation but stopping people at the border. >> without a doubt, the images and the reality from 2014 just like 2018 are not pretty. and so we expanded family detention. we had then 34,000 beds for family detention and only 95 of 34,000 equipped to deal with families. so we expanded it and i freely admit it was controversial. we believed it was necessary at the time. i still believe it is necessary to a certain capability for families. we can't have catch and release. >> while there were no people being kicked out of restaurants. >> the thing that was missing from last week's debate -- while lots of things were missing but one thing that was missing was context. what we were seeing wasn't o
but when he's talking about due process, the reason people have a don mcgahn asylum process is to seether they deserve to be let into the country or not. to decide by fee at that they should be allowed to, or send them over the border to mexico, that's why we have a constitution. >> this was a story that was on undercover. the former homeland security chief jay johnson talking about not only child separation but stopping people at the border. >> without a doubt, the images and the...
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the consternation is don mcgahn, the president's lawyer, john kelly, did not necessarily think kim kardashian coming to the oval office and pardoning johnson did not know she was qualified for a pardon in their opinion. jared kushner helped set this meeting up. he supports this pardon. facing off against the chief of staff and chief lawyer. right now we are seeing the president inclined to sign it. the president really wants to do some more pardons. he's asked his lawyers to bring in more candidates for pardons. she's been stymied by congress, the mueller probe. it is simple to folks in the mueller investigation, hey, i'm willing to use this power pretty frequently. though the white house contends that's not the case. that is being seen by others. >> josh, thank you very much for sharing your great reporting with us this morning. >> thank you. >> coming up in the next hour, kellyanne conway will join us to talk about all of these issues. >> what do we expect to happen when president trump and kim jong-un are face-to-face less than a week from now? ...200 sites to find you the... ...hotel you
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don mcgahn, the white house council, is having a meeting now while the president decides what the supremewill look like for the next few decades. we were told short after we found out kennedy was retiring that they will move this quickly and now we're seeing how quickly they want this to go. a nomination by july 9 is very big. it's very soon. they have a list when they updated it from the gorsuch protsz, b process, but still, that's a very quick timeline to pick a person. >> and that's what mitch mcconnell wants. 66 days from sotomayor from nomination to confirmation. 66 days for neil gorsuch from nomination to confirmation. he wants to do this by this fall. >> the election starts in september. by october 30 they have to pick a new budget. they can't convince these senators they're making calls to to come on board with a nomination. this is basic math. with murkowski, susan collins and chuck grassley, the question is are they talking with those senators to find out who they are willing to sit with and are able to stomach. anyone on that list is likely to make a change to roe v. wade, so w
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leonard leo's hand in this, but leonard leo has been in close touch with justice kennedy as has don mcgahn. you just can't help but wonder what kinds of conversations went on in terms of going this year, going next year. and the other thing i should say is everyone on that list that we'vethony kennedy. there is no one on that list who we would say that could possibly be a swing vote. no, these people have been vetted the way no set of nominees has ever been vetted except for neil gorsuch. >> by the way, i think it was a great idea that the president did this. i hope all presidential candidates do it. >> did what? >> made this list. made this public list. i think it is great to know who is being considered. >> laura, the last word. >> in many ways this mirrors what happened in 2006 when you had day o'connor leave and alito took her place. i expect this will be very much the same, that somebody to the right of it. but i still think that there is some opportunity in some areas that will have an opportunity to have vetting by members of congress about whether the person is going to rubber stam
leonard leo's hand in this, but leonard leo has been in close touch with justice kennedy as has don mcgahn. you just can't help but wonder what kinds of conversations went on in terms of going this year, going next year. and the other thing i should say is everyone on that list that we'vethony kennedy. there is no one on that list who we would say that could possibly be a swing vote. no, these people have been vetted the way no set of nominees has ever been vetted except for neil gorsuch....
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sources say chief of staff john kelly don mcgahn advocated against. it others on the list, business woman martha stewart. a source familiar said the president hasle on that idea. >> we're going to mak a scrumptious meatloaf sandwich which is dona favorite. >> he was found guilty of lying to investigators about suspicious stock trades and rod blagoyovich is on the list, he was on the ce. convicted on 17 corruption charges and impeached for trying to sell a u.s. senate seat and last mp pardoned danesh desouza who pleaded guilty to violatingcamp tweeted saying he has the absolute right to pardon himself and his willingness to ignore justice department gieuidelinesn issuing pardons, some are worried he'll help those caught up in the investigation in the russian meddling in 2016 as he pardons sheriff joe arpaio last year for his criminal contempt conviction. >> there is thousands of people that deserve comeutation and anoio t white shouldn't take k house to get something like that done. >> reporter: and two sources familiar with the matter say the white ho
sources say chief of staff john kelly don mcgahn advocated against. it others on the list, business woman martha stewart. a source familiar said the president hasle on that idea. >> we're going to mak a scrumptious meatloaf sandwich which is dona favorite. >> he was found guilty of lying to investigators about suspicious stock trades and rod blagoyovich is on the list, he was on the ce. convicted on 17 corruption charges and impeached for trying to sell a u.s. senate seat and last...
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sanctions are taking a toll on the economy there and restoring after president trump pulled a ron don mcgahn of the nuclear deal -- 24-hour strike nearly paralyzing argentina. the labor union protesting the strings attached to a $50 billion fund alone. they are also calling for 30% pay hikes in line with argentina's soaring inflation rate. three years after a large influx of migrants, and asylum seekers hit european soil, the issue is pitting leaders against each other. italy's new minister has a proposal to him at home the point to end migration flows. >> the far right interior minister is italy's new populist government made his first trip overseas today and he made it to libya. there he says that he believes that migrants need to be processed or stopped altogether before they even get to libya and not when they are frankly already dangerously adrift in the mainstreaming in singapore arriving on european shores. now many migrants start off journeys in sudan and other african countries to make perilous tracks across africa to libya where smugglers vote, take them to europe. >> we believe th
sanctions are taking a toll on the economy there and restoring after president trump pulled a ron don mcgahn of the nuclear deal -- 24-hour strike nearly paralyzing argentina. the labor union protesting the strings attached to a $50 billion fund alone. they are also calling for 30% pay hikes in line with argentina's soaring inflation rate. three years after a large influx of migrants, and asylum seekers hit european soil, the issue is pitting leaders against each other. italy's new minister has...
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thehief of staff john kelly not supportive of a pardon for al joh and don mcgahn not supportive of this you have red kushner on the other side of this. the fact that they're not all on the same page with this. >> that's right. jared kushner and john kelly aren't often on the same page of some of these things and we're seeing jared kushner making a comeback in the west wing. he got his security clearance reinstated after so much drama with that. we are seeing him really make a stand here. he was given a lot of things in his portfolio when he joined the adtion involving peace in the middle east and several others and the office of innovation technology. prison reform has been one of jared kushner's main things and we are seeing him stick by that by inviting kim kardashian, and we are seeing it does say something about jared kushner's role in the white house and it also raisuestiof the president is trying to send a signal to his allies with this pardoning power. we know the paul manafort and michael cohen, those situations there as well. i also told one more thing. since the president has
thehief of staff john kelly not supportive of a pardon for al joh and don mcgahn not supportive of this you have red kushner on the other side of this. the fact that they're not all on the same page with this. >> that's right. jared kushner and john kelly aren't often on the same page of some of these things and we're seeing jared kushner making a comeback in the west wing. he got his security clearance reinstated after so much drama with that. we are seeing him really make a stand here....
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i think that don mcgahn has tried more often than not to make actual policy get followed, particularly since the rob porter issue. john kelly i think does these things issue by issue and based on how he feels about them. again, this does not follow the normal process. to your point, should somebody have to be a celebrity or be able to be in a fox news green room to get the president's attention? that's a different subject. but on this particular case, it is still not clear to me and it's not clear to me from "the washington post" story why kelly has an issue here. what i think it is, i think some of it is the method of delivery here, sort of the jared kushner push for prison reform, and who is helping it pushing -- >> the existing internal tensions. >> this is about other things and not the case. >>> when we come back, one of the other things that comes up a lot, the russian investigation. big news from the president's top lawyers. maybe bigger news from the speaker of the house. it's gone. that's why you need someone behind you. not just a card. an entire support system. whether visit
i think that don mcgahn has tried more often than not to make actual policy get followed, particularly since the rob porter issue. john kelly i think does these things issue by issue and based on how he feels about them. again, this does not follow the normal process. to your point, should somebody have to be a celebrity or be able to be in a fox news green room to get the president's attention? that's a different subject. but on this particular case, it is still not clear to me and it's not...
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recall, the "new york times" reported in january that trump had ordered his white house counsel don mcgahnller, which mcgahn refused to do. now, according to this new reporting, the president told an aide that mcgahn should issue a statement denying the "new york times" article in january, but mcgahn did not publicly deny the article. so just to recap, trump told mcgahn to fire mueller, but mcgahn refused, which got out. so trump told mcgahn to deny that he told him to fire mueller, which mcgahn again refused, which then also got out. [ laughter ] seriously, how are these two still together? [ laughter ] trump tells mcgahn to do stuff, mcgahn says no, it keeps getting in the press, but trump doesn't fire mcgahn and mcgahn doesn't quit. they're like one of those couples that ruins every dinner party by fighting, and when they leave someone says, "they must have amazing sex." [ laughter ] meanwhile, we keep getting more information about the trump team's ties to the russia, and specifically their efforts after the election to set up a secret communications channel with the kremlin. apparentl
recall, the "new york times" reported in january that trump had ordered his white house counsel don mcgahnller, which mcgahn refused to do. now, according to this new reporting, the president told an aide that mcgahn should issue a statement denying the "new york times" article in january, but mcgahn did not publicly deny the article. so just to recap, trump told mcgahn to fire mueller, but mcgahn refused, which got out. so trump told mcgahn to deny that he told him to fire...
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don mcgahn, the white house counsel recused his office from the mueller probe months ago and now the attorney general of new york is suing the trump foundation and perhaps referring a criminal complaint to the irs. this was not a good week legally. >> no, not at all. you see him latch on to this ig report to argue that he's been vindicated and that, you know, atere's bias at the fbi an all of his -- the whole public campaign that he's been waging against the mueller investigation is valid and that he's ramping that up and so not only did he do that scrum on the white house lawn, which by the way, i have never seen a president do. but he also is latching on to that and preparing to really double down on their pushback and effort to undermine the mueller sgletion what you left out from that he had an interview friday morn on the white house lawn with "fox & friends" and he heaped this praise on kim jong-un and he likes the way that he makes his people sit up at attention with him and he wishes he could do the same with his people. later on he said he was kidding but it's such an extrao
don mcgahn, the white house counsel recused his office from the mueller probe months ago and now the attorney general of new york is suing the trump foundation and perhaps referring a criminal complaint to the irs. this was not a good week legally. >> no, not at all. you see him latch on to this ig report to argue that he's been vindicated and that, you know, atere's bias at the fbi an all of his -- the whole public campaign that he's been waging against the mueller investigation is valid...
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and white house counsel don mcgahn was opposed partially because of the process and because he felt it was an unnecessary pardon -- in this case commutation -- that the president did not need to take. that was one that was droefrl controversial and there was a debate back and forth. they readied the papers yesterday and finally did it today. part of reason some of these have been open to debate is the way they are coming in, which is not through the traditional department of justice channels. but this is something the president -- someone will get on his radar, like martha stewart or rob blagojevich, and a lot of these get on his radar because he is calling friend and confidants from air force one late at night and at their residents and they will give a recommendation, this person deserves or pardon or that person, a commutation. then his aides are caught unaware and there can be some dissent. >> interesting way to put it. mimi rocha, let's follow up on ashley's point. let's walk through what the usual process is for pardons and the ways in which the president is kind of breaching tha
and white house counsel don mcgahn was opposed partially because of the process and because he felt it was an unnecessary pardon -- in this case commutation -- that the president did not need to take. that was one that was droefrl controversial and there was a debate back and forth. they readied the papers yesterday and finally did it today. part of reason some of these have been open to debate is the way they are coming in, which is not through the traditional department of justice channels....
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he's calculating even against the advice at times of his white house counsel don mcgahn and chief of staff general kelly who are telling him there are legal issues with trying to move forward with this kind of executive order. but he's watching cable news all the time. he's getting pressure from gop lawmakers to take some sort of action and even advice from his own family about how to move from this position. yet he's always torn, he still wants to go to minnesota and have the rally where he says he's tough on immigration, tough on the border, but he also wants to make sure that he doesn't lose all of his political capital. that's why he moves with his executive power. >> elise, melania trump went down to the border today, seemed to have -- seem to have been well received. i was reminded of her first interview after the access hollywood tape came out and how she's been deployed at some of donald trump's lowest moments. let's watch her trying to clean that one up. >> as you can see from the tape, the cameras were not on. it was only a mic. and i wonder if they even knew that the mic w
he's calculating even against the advice at times of his white house counsel don mcgahn and chief of staff general kelly who are telling him there are legal issues with trying to move forward with this kind of executive order. but he's watching cable news all the time. he's getting pressure from gop lawmakers to take some sort of action and even advice from his own family about how to move from this position. yet he's always torn, he still wants to go to minnesota and have the rally where he...
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this was not -- don mcgahn was the lawyer who ran what was going on in the campaign, not michael cohen i completely disagree, of course. the bottom line is, if you have three clients one of which is donald trump and you are being investigated for possible bank fraud or wire fraud, or this hush payment that was possibly made or definitely made to stormy daniels, i think the two are inextricably tied so an investigation into michael cohen certainly could be an investigation into -- >> and it could be an investigation into anything else including his efforts with his own real estate investments and and it's much more likely he's getting investigated himself than any information that involves the president. >> and i don't know -- if that's true, i don't know why he thought the attorney/client privilege would protect him. the bottom line is he is in the business of being an attorney for three clients. >> we are certainly going to see what he's willing to see what he's going to share with investigators soon enough. thank you. michael? >>> amy, thank you. turning now to the immigration battle
this was not -- don mcgahn was the lawyer who ran what was going on in the campaign, not michael cohen i completely disagree, of course. the bottom line is, if you have three clients one of which is donald trump and you are being investigated for possible bank fraud or wire fraud, or this hush payment that was possibly made or definitely made to stormy daniels, i think the two are inextricably tied so an investigation into michael cohen certainly could be an investigation into -- >> and...