between the president ordering him to do something and don mcghan actually doing it hoping the president might change his mind or forget. the detail in "the new york times" story that stuck out to me was mcgann calling the president -- mcghan calling the president behind his back king kong because of his volcanic rages and anger. hard to imagine somebody staying in a job for much longer when -- telling tales out of school like that. maybe he doesn't want to stay on the job. remember, don mcghan as the white house counsel is the point person in the white house for interacting with the justice department and the fbi. and that relationship has been broken from the beginning because of president trump's fear and response to this russia investigation. don mcghan has been the man in the middle absorbing blows from the president and to some extent absorbing pushback from the doj and the fbi. his spot has been an uncomfortable one for a long time. you've got to wonder if brett kavanaugh gets confirmed it is supreme court if that's a natural time after which don mcghan leaves the white house. >>

we have no reason to bleach don mcghan didn't do that.s john dowd, the president's lawyer said, don mcghan was the strongest witness for the president. meaning he completely gave testimony that said that the president didn't do anything wrong, which the president didn't do anything wrong. judge jeanine: who would plant a story or suggestion or create an effort to legitimize a claim mcghan is trying to take the fall. does it tell you that the "new york times" is making stuff up and is fake news? does it tell you that mueller is starting to panic and starting to get mcghan to work with him? telling him, look, the president is teeing you up for a fall? >> the best analysis would be that the mueller team is panicking. they know they don't have a case. there was in collusion or obstruction. they can't prove it, and they are trying to get the president to testify. and they are hoping that if they put out a story like this in which they suggest that mcghan is cooperating against him, but don't say it. that he'll want to come in and explain himse

adrienne: the fact that don mcghan is speaking to mueller is what's newsworthy about this. howie: when we come back the media ripping the president for yanking john brennan's security clearance. and president trump castigating the media. ♪ it is such a good time to kiss ♪ ♪ it is such a good time to dance ♪ ♪ it is such a good time to [ laughing ] ♪ scoobidoo doobidoo ♪ scoobidoo doobidoo [ goose honking ] ♪ [ laughing ] a bad day on the road still beats a good one off it. ♪ progressive helps keep you out there. ♪ you might be missing something.y healthy. your eyes. that's why there's ocuvite. ocuvite helps replenish nutrients your eyes can lose as you age. it has lutein, zeaxanthin and omega-3. ocuvite. be good to your eyes. i can do more to lower my a1c. because my body can still make its own insulin. i take trulicity once a week to activate my body to release its own insulin, like it's supposed to. trulicity is not insulin. it works 24/7. it comes in an easy-to-use pen. and i may even lose a little weight. trulicity is an injection to improve blood sugar in adults with t

don mcghan is a really good guy. was going. >> martha: that was president trump saying that white house counsel don mcghan who is leaving shortly after the confirmation judge brett kavanaugh to the supreme court. that move he said it was widely expected. of it a surprise when it happened this morning. it is fueling speculation about his role in the russia probe his cooperation with the mueller team earlier this month. the president said he knew about it and he sanctioned it and it was okay. here now ohio congressman jim jordan member of the house judiciary and oversight committee. chuck grassily was comfortable -- concerned about the white house losing don mcghan. you can't let that happen @real donald trump. >> i think don mcghan is a darn good lawyer. if he wants to leave and the white house is fine, the president is okay, that's the white house decision. i think the president got a good legal team around him. mr. guiliani and mr. flood. i think what we do know is mueller's investigation now 15 or 16 months, not bi

arthel: what is it the president could have asked don mcghan. is there anything he could have said that perhaps could have harmed the president in any way or not? >> it could have. but that shouldn't be what we should look at. i am sure he asked about the circumstances surrounding the firing of mr. comey and the circumstances surrounding the president's tweets involving the northern general. but it's one thing which the "new york times" article puts somewhere near the bottom, and it says mr. mcghan said i never saw the president go beyond his legal authority. that's in the "new york times" account of the mcghan interview. if you look at that, he had nothing to worry about for himself or the president. arthel: what do you make of the president's reaction to all of this in real-time where it's documented as he tweets about this? >> the president has his own way of expressing himself which some of us are uncomfortable with. some of us do it in our own way. i'm not an advocate for the president. but i have to tell you i am only looking at what's in

i don't think any lawyer should allow it and the idea that don mcghan spent 30 hours there, 30 hours,s incomprehensible to me, but it does serve, we do know what the president said and that's it. anything else will be a perjury trap. >> that's right. just look how mike flynn was treated by bob mueller. he's a guy who told the truth according to the fbi agents who interviewed him. >> sean: slow down, wait a minute, lieutenant general flynn, great point, tells the truth, believed to be the truth by even peter struck an james comey and he got charged with and admitted to lying to the fbi. >> it shows you how unscrupulous and how unprincipled bob mueller and his team of partisans are. i bet that papadopoulos probably told the truth to the best of his knowledge. he was a bit player. >> sean: probably scared. >> probably scared. >> sean: he was young. >> he was 30 years old at the time. probably went in there without a lawyer. it's never a good idea to lie to the fbi. but papadopoulos is an interesting character. i spend a subchapter in the book about him. it was never the papadopoulos bar

adrienne: the fact that don mcghan is speaking to mueller is what's newsworthy about this. howie: when we come back the media ripping the president for yanking john brennan's security clearance. and president trump castigating the media. this wi-fi is fast. i know! i know! i know! i know! when did brian move back in? brian's back? he doesn't get my room. he's only going to be here for like a week. like a month, tops. oh boy. wi-fi fast enough for the whole family is simple, easy, awesome. in many cultures, young men would stay with their families until their 40's. howie: president trump knew he would provoke a media firestorm by yanking the security cleeshes of john brennan. john brennan called his press conference nothing short of treasonous. >> i'm not shocked at all the appalling things president trump has done. i think this is an egregious act that flies in the face of traditional practice, common sense and national security. i think that's why there is such an outcry from intelligence professionals. president trump: i'm giving him a bigger voice. and that's okay with m

don mcghan, his chief lawyer said to him, essentially, mr. president, these aren't enforceable.'t ask folks -- if you're seeing classified info, that's one thing. but unclassified info you can't sign an nda until the end of time. the president said, no, i want people to sign them. eventually after several weeks of wrangling don mcghan told because aides you have to sign these. but he also privately told folks these aren't enforceable, you basically just have to sign them to appease the president. what the president said is that he wanted those out there basically -- not to scare people but to put fear in people, you're not going to disclose private things about me and you sign this document saying you wouldn't. >> that's really bizarre. sign this but it doesn't actually mean anything. but just sign this. josh, important reporting. thank you. toluse, thank you again for pointing out that important fact yesterday in your reporting. >>> ahead, vermont democrats made history choosing the first transgender gubernatorial candidate for a major party in the country. what she says is dri

the "new york times" reports white house counsel don mcghan participated in 30 hours of interviews givings comey and other issues on obstruction of justice. the number of people who died in the bridge collapse in italy rising to 43. a genoa hospital said the truck driver has died. italy's president is demanding guarantees that all of his country's roads are safe. now back to. "watters' world." jesse: democrats have been blaming russia -- russian meddln their 2016 loss. last week in ohio they stay what sucks is our unwillingness to pass policy that protects our election integrity. i think it's russian meddling. i don't think he was part of russian melding. he couldn't even remember his own campaign website during an interview. >> do you have a website? >> definitely have a website and a link for the donate page at the top of the website. >> could you tell us what that website is. >> off the top of my head, i don't remember. jesse: joining me, ohio green party candidate joe manchik. let me say something. that was not supposed to be released to the public. that was a private chat i had with

as for don mcghan going before the special counsel, good. that's about transparency.he end of the day president trump doesn't believe there will be any charges filed against him. what he's trying to win is a popularity contest with the american voters such that he'll not be removed from office. charles: democrats have to be concerned about that. despite the scoreboard there is one line that has a zero next to it. the trump administration, russian collusion. there is nothing there, and it's beening a long time. >> i would love to see an toned this investigation as would any republican on this panel or this program. but this investigation, bob mueller is going about this methodically in terms of a month ago releasing indictments detailing the degree to which the russians hacked the cam phage right before the helsinki summit. zooms do i want it to wrap up sooner than later? absolutely. >> i would like to see it play out, too. i think we are all fatigued by this. but all of that does have a political purpose as well. mueller must understand this goes into the mid-term ele

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rudy's "meet the press" interview came one day after this weekend, without downu counsel don mcghan, a week-long twitter tirade. trump referred to the disgrace to discredit bob mueller and the whole group of angry democrat thugles. he says they are looking to impact the elect. he wrote the failing "new york times" wrote a fake piece food implying white house counsel, he spells it with a c, he must be a john dean type rat. but i allowed him and all others to test i don't have to. i have nothing to hide. his participation with mueller may present a problem with mr. trump and his legal team. namely, they don't know what he told pros securities. it was a grate, it was like pulling the table off the silverware, you probably it. 30 hours of testimony. >> at least. >> trump did not know the extent of this. he thought he sees lawyers as people that fix his problems. the idea of a white house counsel is a hard one for him to understand, someone that represents the institution. >> you mean an honest guy? >> he thought mcghan would say, mueller, here's why the president did nothing wrong as if

he has also said that any suggestion that this happened behind his back is untrue, he says that don mcghanull permission for him to go—ahead and give this information to be special counsel, and of course we're still waiting to see what robert mueller does find and whether any charges flow from that. 0k, and whether any charges flow from that. ok, chris, thank you very much indeed, chris buckler there with the latest on political developments in washington, dc. stay with us on bbc world news, still to come: addressing the nation — imran khan makes his first address as prime minister, promising to tackle corruption in pakistan. washington, the world's most political city is assessing the political city is assessing the political body will‘s most powerful man. i did have a relationship that was wrong. in south africa, 97 people killed today on one of the worst days of violence between rival black groups. over the last ten days, 500 have died. czechoslovakia must be free! russia is observing a national day of mourning for the submariners who died on board the kursk. we all with them now, in ou

giuliani moments away with brand-new reaction to the "new york times" report that white house counsel don mcghanh mueller. welcome to justice. i'm jeanine pirro. thanks to all of you for making justice number one last weekend. we have a big show on deck for you. president trump's attorney rudy giuliani, and tom fi tom fittonl standing by live. and my personal

all this comes in revelations that don mcghan has provided 30 hours of testimony to the special counsel. on monday, don mcghan ignoring questions. >> why did you speak so long to the special counsel. >> reporter: according to "the washington post," mcgahnri asng them he did not incriminate the president. mcgahn saying he would have resigned if he witnessed a crime. rudy giuliani saying he's not concerned. >> he's an ethical epguy. >>ter: if his part, rudy giuliani also trying to clarify this comment to chuck todd. >> when you tell me he shouldn't testify because he's goingo tell the truth and shouldn't worry, that's silly because it' somebody's version of the truth, not the truth -- >>ruth is truth. >> no, it isn't truth. truth isn't truth. >>li gi telling fox news -- >> it's like the tree falling in the forest, how do we know what the truth is? >> reporter: also in that new interview, the president neglected to blame russia for interfering in the 2016 election. mr. trump saying mueller's investigation played right into the russian's hand. we may hear more abo this when the president ra

throwing hay makers at the media, he was shooting down reports that he let go of white house council don mcghan because of his defense of jeff sessions. he says i like don, but he was not responsible for me not firing bob mueller or jeff sessions. so much fake reporting and fake news. the president also denied reports that ivanka trump his daughter and her husband jared kushner were behind the decision. a tweet that reportedly caught mcghan off guard. but it wasn't the mueller probe or jared or ivanka, why is mcghan leaving right now? let me ask buck sexton. let's start with mcghan. you have some hyperventilation from the press over that "new york times" story about mcghan cooperating with mueller and people are saying this must be point a, point b, trump is mad, so mcghan is out. in the story the times reported that trump personally approved the cooperation with mueller. that theory doesn't really fly with me. what about you? >> i think it's much ado about nothing. when you line up the different administration folks who have departed already. mcghan has been a survivor. no question about it. h

kennedy: maybe robert mueller was trying to trip up don mcghan over 30 hours which is a long time to spend with special counsel. >> we'll say something that's true, you go a little too far and you are done. you made a mistake. there are procedural traps and errors. >> remember the leaked questions from the special counsel. >> they had nothing to do. what were you thinking? if jim comey perceives he was thinking one thing and the president perceives he was thinking another, is that perjury? kennedy: when you are asking someone their thoughts and feeling on something, can there be a wrong answer? >> it's not only legal, it's political as well. kennedy: rudy giuliani is at his worst when he makes the unforceddereddors. he's at his best when he's operating as a former prosecutor and politician. he's one of the few people who understands that intersection. his former lawyer could be in deep yogurt according to a report by the "new york times." michael cohen under investigation for $20 million of bank and tax fraud. federal investigators are trying to determine whether he lied about his as

the "new york times" reporting white house counsel don mcghan has been cooperating extensively with the participated in 30 hours of interviews giving investigators a look at the firing of james comey and other issues related to obstruction of justice. the number of people killed in the bridge collapse in italy has risen to 43. a genoa hospital says a truck driver who suffered severe injuries died. mourners attended a state funeral saturday to honor the victims. now back to "watters world." greg: is a public smear over beer. sam adams is the latest brand with the trump problem. that is what this boston globe headline says. it all started when a massachusetts mayor announced on twitter how brave that he will never drink them adams beer again because the companies cofounder praised trumps tax cuts. that is all the same adam died. nobody got hurt, no crime but he had an opinion. the only thing getting murdered here is the punctuation in this tweet. but because everybody loves to boycott others are joining in. now, we can't like something or anything fun like a beer because the cofounder lik

that's how the president responded to the new york blockbuster this weekend, don mcghan has been cooperating for months, participating in at least three voluntary interviews over a remarkable 30 hours. it's jaw developing news, a huge development in the probe, examining whether the president, himself, obstructed justice or might have done other this engs that exceeded his powers. mcgahn, the president tut put i. he is driving trump's successful efforts to fill the courts with conservative judges. >> that, includes, okay, supreme court nominee brett kavanaugh mcgahn escorted to capitol hill today. though reporters were interested in a different topic. >> why did you take so long to the special counsel, mr. mcgahn. >> were you afraid the president would betray you? >> do you regret that decision? >> will you continue to comploo i? >> have you briefed the white house on everything you told the special counsel? >> mcgahn has been involved in most of the key events in mueller's obstruction probe as far as we know, including michael flynn's early ouster of the white house and getting jeff sessions

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he had even written a letter to don mcghan, white house counsel, warning that this exists. they don't seem to care. >> let's wrap up here with you, juli julian. former president jimmy carter, a profile piece about his post presidency life there in georgia. his comments on president trump and his presidency. let's put him up on the screen, give a taste of what he said here. calling the administration a disaster. he says, "i think he's a disaster in human rights and taking care of people and treating people equal. i think there's been attitude of ignorance toward the truth by president trump." first, how rare is it, julian, if you could describe for a president to talk about one of his contemporaries, and then for this president to speak about a president in this way? >> this is pointed criticism. you do have presidents make statements about what's going on in terms of policy and high-profile issues, but this is a hard-hitting attack and represents where a lot of the country is now on the president of the united states. it's not a total surprise. a jimmy carter was a presiden

that donald trump wanted to fire bob mueller last -- earlier this year, was talked out of it by don mcghan who's obviously been in the news a lot, of late. so i don't know that this changes much of anything. remember, republicans control the house and the senate, which means they make the rules, effectively. if -- this is to rachel's point. they made a deal a while back with themselves that they were going to have to kind of accept whatever came with donald trump. i'm not sure they thought it was going to be this but whatever came with donald trump because they thought they could get supreme court justices, a tax cut bill through. now donald trump remains quite popular with the republican base, one of the most popular presidents among republicans ever. i don't think they abandon him this close to an election. >> one of the things that can certainly be a rallying cry for the bases of both parties here, talk of impeachment. it is something that democrats are shying away from. here's what senator warren had to say. >> do think that alone is grounds for impeachment? >> i think that what congre