it doesn't shock me in the sense that we know that sally yates went to the white house and told don megan the white house that this guy was potentially blackmailable by the russians. and we know from reports that apparently the former president, barack obama, warned donald trump directly against hiring mike flynn. and you know there's a number of other issues that have come up around mike flynn. so i guess as much as this is something of a scoop for you guys, it's not all that shocking to me. >> we should also point out, i interviewed her on monday, sally yates took the unusual step of allowing the white house to review the intelligence, to review the information that she had. she made it available to them. i think it took them eight days from the time she made it available or from the time they requested. but nevertheless, they were able to review that. so whatever the intelligence was, the white house would have gotten a sense of it because they were actually able to go and look at it. >> yeah, that's right. and this points to the larger topic of just the sort of bizarre closeness with