last night on "the beat" we reported how his role might amount to a john dean or don megan. trump saying i don't want anybody looking through my boxes. what happens if we don't respond at or play ball with the feds? quote, wouldn't it be better if we just tell them we don't have anything here, which is a lie we all know, and isn't it better if there are no documents? again, from the lawyer. that is an estimation of what trump said at the time saying, well, wouldn't it be better if we lied and say there are no documents when they are, and we know he's charge would a false statement, lie. then you have this thing we talked about today, the plucking motion was donald trump trying to persuade or cajole or illegally demand his lawyers just pluck out the bad stuff, and the lawyer said he made kind of a funny motion. he said, why don't you take the secret documents to your hotel room and if there's anything

transcribed interviews and don megan's chief of staff notes, largely a footnote in mueller's report. megan was fired somewhere along the way as trump sunk in how much tom megan spent with the investigators. i don't know trump has been in this position before, reading evidence that has been given about him to investigators, people that he's still around. i mean evan corcoran is still around. his personal aides and personal staff at mar-a-lago are still there. we haven't heard of any them being fired. what are you watching for as this case moves forward? >> we might learn more about who the witnesses are. we noticed lately his legal team and people around him do tend to share a lot of information that maybe they shouldn't. and the other thing about this you're right don megan is the first person that came to mind when i saw how many witness interviews he conducted. they were subpoenaing text messages, their phones, their devices, video footage. there's going to be things donald trump and his team sees that are evidence that the special counsel has gathered that has really nothing to do

. >> this is something that he has been lauded for, feted for, given awards that praised don megan. this is a thing that, you know, he gives elaborate interviews to "the washington post," to "the new yorker" saying i'm the guy, i did this. and the idea that he is then in photos with people and he says, oh, we're not talking about the business of the court, it's super weird that i'm sitting here with clarence thomas and harlan crow and we're talking about sports. it's the fatuousness of the court. you match up a multibillionaire with a supreme court justice and you have them lavish them with gifts. take the win, you did it. >> here's the interesting. yesterday about 6:30 p.m. in addition to the idea propublica's reporting had already come out and this op-ed -- not the op-ed but it was an op-ed by justice alito had been printed in "the wall street journal," at 6:30 yesterday evening they came out and attacked propublica saying that they're trying to damage the court, right, by reporting on it. the language is very similar to leonard leo's language here, the idea that by reporting on j

range of trouble dating back to trying to win over, you know, james comey's loyalty or trying to get don megan to create a fake document or trying to get the ukrainian government to do investigations of his rival, that he couldn't get his own fbi or justice department that he thought at the time to do. these are all, like, in the scheme of the president of the united states largely minor things that led him to very, very self-inflicted behavior. >> mary mccord, in this new reporting of trump's response to another day as the twice indicted ex-president, the one thing that never comes up a is denial. there's never denial that he took classified documents and refused to return them. there's this almost reflexive you hit the knee about blinken and the sock drawer and this obsessive almost child like repeating of the word i had the presidential records act, the presidential records act, which has no relation to whether or not he committed the crime of unlawful retention of classified documents. what do you see in just what's playing to the eye ever since he's been indicted about his state of mind w

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