he was-- he was-- i was talking to don newcomb the other day. >> rose: oh, great, don newcomb, right. played with him? >> he did, he did, and, obviously, a good friend. and, you know, he had--e-- what peoe don'tnow is-- what people don't know and they'll find out in the movie, he grew up in pasadena, in california. i mean, jackie did. went to u.c.l.a.. >> rose: right. was a star. >> four-letterman in sports at u.c.l.a. baseball wasn't his best sport. >> rose: football? >> football. but he also-- his brother came in second in the olympic games to jesse owen. and he beat his brothes time in a couple of-- of -- >> so he had athletic ability. >> he had incredible athletic ability. somebody else said-- and it's not in the movie-- but they said he wasn't the best baseball player they ever saw, but he was the most exciting. >> rose: loved to steal bases. >> he-- he loved to steal bases. yeah. and he had-- he had nerves of steel. the guy was a powerful man. >> rose: but the racial taunt he had to go through, becse his deal with bran ricy, the character you played, was that you-- >> that was t