if you take figaro and the bard and bride and don pasqual and -- i'm sure i'm leaving some out and youe human comedies with them or the best of them is falstaff. it's a mir miracle of libretto, story line, music cal inspiration, mastery of every detail of composition. it's in a class with figaro and meister sing cher are perhaps the other two that that will almost perfect. i don't need them to be perfect, i love a lot of pieces that aren't perfect but those are the creme de la creme of operatic comedy which is striking because 80% of operatic repertoire is grandiose, tragic, melodramatic, somebody dies. in these pieces the human beings get wiser and through a lot of circumstances which they play seriously but we find very funny >> rose: who else has been instrumental in terms of helping you appreciate, a, the music and b, being mentored to you or in opening distance to you. who are the men and women who have been there that have helped you understand all the limitless potential of music. >> it's a long list, charlie. it's a long list of official teachers like george zell who was my men