we saw what happened in oakland with a surprise when don perata was supposed to be mayor, but polls showed him 35% for the first round, but it seems to be softening, because he is beat up on a number of issues. one of the big things is ethics charges. not charges but allegations that not necessarily the mayor but as campaign or some of the indepen"ent expenditures put out there to support him have raised questions about who is really supporting him. he has had tight alliances with former mayor willie brown who is a dynamic figure in city politics for a long time. rose pack and a lot of people may not have known about her, but insiders know her as a chinatown power broker and who is behind him? he is an affable long time city bureaucrat, and min stray or ao and does he know what is going on around him? >> and nothing is more fun than eight candidates, and are there issues that distinguish them or outliers on the end or a clump of them? >> if you are a voter, i would say to go to the web sites because that is the best place to see where they stand on the issue issues, but when you go to deba