former defense don rumsfeld, secretary of defense. it will be terrific. >>> when we come back, we have a lot of breaking fuse. we have essentially dualing courtroom dramas today where o.j. simpson after silence for years is about to take the stand and break that silence. he says he shouldn't be in prison at all. a lot of people in america don't agree with that, says he shouldn't be there for why he's there. he says he deserves a new trial, his lawyer fouled up. on the right-hand side of your screen, jodi arias back in court as the medical examiner is set to testify very graphically about how awful the death of travis alexander was. how much pain he suffered. why that means jodi should potentially die. we are back live from phoenix after this. designed for men's health concerns as we age. it has 7 antioxidants to support cell health. one a day men's 50+. it has 7 antioxidants to support cell health. so you can capture your receipts, ink for all business purchases. and manage them online with jot, the latest app from ink. so you can spe

until don rumsfeld holds bush accountable for intelligence failures the let it acts of nine eleven happened and the lies he told us about iraqi w m d don you really can't be taken seriously when you complain complain that obama should be held responsible for slow benghazi intelligence was even a slow few weeks maybe at least obama was cautious you and bush a tried that started charging us into afghanistan in iraq without even having proper bardic body armor it's let's not get lost though here because we're missing a very important piece of this puzzle you know the administration blaming this on low level bureaucrats in cincinnati that turned out not to be true we now know that people at the central headquarters of the internal revenue service in washington were involved but were missing something else which is they remember they were doing what people on capitol hill one of them to do in two thousand and ten max baucus the democrat senator from montana and chairman of the spar full senate finance committee that oversees the treasury department wrote a letter to the director of the i.r.s. sa

we will also hear from don rumsfeld on his new book. and on press pass, a conversation with rick atkinson in the final book about america's involvement in europe in world war ii. it's all ahead this morning. >> 9:51. stephen colbert's personal words of wisdom to the students at uva. >> they're good. and "snl" surprises, the unexpected guest w >>> and in the last few minutes, we have just gotten an update on that breaking news in old town alexandria. we reported on the fire at bugsy's pizza restaurant. this is on king street down by the water. we have heavy smoke reported there. firefighters on the scene. they're trying to put everything out. we are hearing it broke out around 8:54 this morning and it had something to do with the heating and the air conditioning system. avoid the area because they have to block the roads off as they continue to clean up the scene. we have a reporter headed to the scene. follow us on twitter for updates throughout the morning and check our website, nbcwashington.com. >>> uva seniors get words of wisdom as

south lawn are very important here and just as he said that, out of the corner of my eye i saw don rumsfeld, the secretary of defense, and vice president cheney were walking out of the oval office and the president walked over to greet them. and at that stage they were discussing the timing of the start of the war in iraq. post back when you see a meeting like this happening, how close can you physically get to these very? >> guest: i tried to give him space. i didn't get too close, but that was fine because i felt photographically speaking i was in the right spot in order to capture the environment. you're standing outside the oval office. i actually shot a photo with a telephoto so you can really see their expressions during this moment. and i was just far enough away where i couldn't hear what they were saying but i could definitely tell from their expressions it was very intense discussion. >> host: did the photo center contained in "front row seat," did they have to be cleared by secret service, by the bush folks? >> guest: yeah, everything is approved by the president's library. nothi

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assistance the same thing that's going on in oklahoma today or the current this was and this was don rumsfeld's and then the free market will take over exactly the very free market that your previous guests were emoting over was supposed to take over in iraq as well donna rome so famously told us that we'd be welcomed with chocolates and flowers in the streets when that plane didn't work and iraq erupted into a chaotic environment the reconstruction passed through a number of hands no one no no one of which really was very interested in completing the task and mostly was interested in either pushing it aside when it was given to the army corps of engineers who saw it was impossible or simply dragging it out for as much money as possible when the contractors such as k.b.r. were handed the task what happened is that the contractors for example were spending seventy eighty percent of their money on security and very little of their money on the actual reconstruction by the time two thousand and nine rolled around and i was apparently the last person in washington who had been new iraqi yet and i w

do anything right, it needs to be addressed, but republicans i think have gone too far and with don rumsfeldnow you're having a bad day with republicans. >> a lot of folks understand the irs, matt, stuff. they get that. they can get their heads around that. again, who doesn't really hate the irs, i suppose? but with benghazi, and you know this. i mean, with benghazi, it's a lot tougher to get folks to understand that one. at what point does the republican party run the risk of overreaching on benghazi especially or convoluting the scandal pool, so to speak? >> i think it's fair. they run the risk on all scandals making it look like they're fanning the flames for their own political benefit and have to be careful. i disagree with both of you on benghazi in the sense i think when you have dead, four dead people, our first ambassador killed in a generation, you know, when you look at the facts it is incredibly troubling, and what was more trouble here i think to a lot of people and this goes along with the irs scandal we're reading about is the fact that there was a desire to kind of push these

here you have -- this is at the time the secretary of defense don rumsfeld, you have frederick douglass donald rumsfeld owning the very property where he was held, who is actually known for torture, when you talk about donald rumsfeld you talk about guantanamo and iraq. i say, what do you think about this? and a woman in the church said to me, i can't comment right now. we're in church. >> host: steve in seattle. we just have a few minutes left with our guest. go ahead. >> caller: thank you. i first want to express my deep gratitude and respect for amy's work and the work of your team. i've very grateful as a reasonable and thinking individual in america. just wanted to quickly ask, having just last evening seen the documentary, detropa, and being still moved by it today. after so many years dealing with the most difficult issues and most heart-wrenchinging of topics what are your sources of hope as you deal with looking deeper into these most difficult and challenging topics? >> guest: well, that's a really important issue, is how we draw hope. as i travel the country, i'm often concer

and also, i want to get a rumsfeld rule from lynne cheney. >> my rule, the one that don put in his book, is that dogs don't bark at parked cars. it is a rule that gives you some comfort when you're a public figure. because a lot of barking goes on. but the point of it is that as long as you're trying to do something, that will happen. there will be critics. there will be people who object to what you're doing. the only way you get peace, the only way you can avoid criticism all together, is if you don't do anything. >>> on the grill is former defense secretary donald rumsfeld. >> why do you call this "the grill?" >> because i like to grill people. we were going to be nice to you, but i said, stick him on the grill. let me grill him for half an hour. >> that's a little arrogant, isn't it, to suggest you're grilling people, as opposed to having -- >> i don't think i'll take arrogant lectures from you, donald rumsfeld. let's move on to the irs, shall we? two questions to my weighty guests before about irs scandals. are you as angry about nixon having had an enemies list? what did you do to

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