and there's a tape recording of that conversation in a fairly stunned stunned don rumsfeld saying on whose authority but a the vice president does not stand in the military's chain of command, and he tells him, from the president. the president of the united states gave me that authority in an earlier phone call. the problem nils the eight sets of official logs kept of all the principles' discussion on the horrific day, none of them record in the appropriate timeline in theonology any such consideration between george w. bush and dick cheney in an interview in 2001 cheney slightly shifted his story, so i asked him about it. and i said do you understand why even people who are supporters of yours have a probable limp with that's because it places you in what is for dick cheney a very unusual position, which is asserting something for which there is no if e evidentiary record. he said, no. there's one timer he gave me the cheney treatment. he said, look, there's been confusion, never been able to get all the calls in the exact times but this is one reason why he said the president and

but most of them were gone through the ages.is going to cost me, don rumsfeld? >> think of it this way. every cent of profit goes to to support the military or their families or the families of the wounded. (applause) i hope you sign up for the app, >> stephen: isn't it free? isn't it a free app. >> the first one. >> stephen: at first it's free. >> there are a few free ones and then they to sign up for more games. >> stephen: you know this makes you sound like a crack dealer, donald rumsfeld. >> no. stephen: that's what you sound like. stick around, i want to talk about important things happening in the world that you might have an opinion on. will you do that? >> i will try to answer. >> stephen: okay.'m basically very shy. >> stephen: you're a very shy person? >> yeah, yeah. >> stephen: i'churchill solitaire, we'll be right back with more donald rumsfeld. stick around. st opinion about this new car. to keep things unbiased, the badging and logos. so, what do you think it is? i would say lexus. maybe acura. feels like a bmw. or. reminds me of the inside of my f

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. >> stephen: how much is this going to cost me, don rumsfeld? >> think of it this way. every cent of profit goes to charities, generally to support the military or their families or the families of the wounded. (applause) and i hope you spend a lot of money. >> stephen: isn't it free? isn't it a free app. >> the first one. >> stephen: at first it's free. >> there are a few free ones and then they start asking you to sign up for more games. >> stephen: you know this makes you sound like a crack dealer, donald rumsfeld. >> no. (laughter). >> stephen: that's what you sound like. stick around, i want to talk about important things happening in the world that you might have an opinion on. will you do that? >> i will try to answer. >> stephen: okay. >> but i'm basically very shy. >> stephen: you're a very shy person? >> yeah, yeah. >> stephen: i'm sure. the app is called churchill solitaire, we'll be right back with more donald rumsfeld. stick around. st opinion about this new car. to keep things unbiased, we removed all the badging and logos. so, what do you think it is? i w

found himself working for a congressman who later went to work in the nixon administration and don rumsfeld that is the power by the time you're 34 you mentioned this guy who added 19 been waking up in a jail in wyoming was the chief of staff to the president of the united states. it really is a remarkable story. >> did he formed his political ideology before yale or after when he comes back? >> i think as of his time at d.o.t. hadn't really devoted too much thought to politics at all. i think that he probably shared some of the ingrained there but it is of westerners and his father is a matter of fact worked for the soil conservation service which is a federal agent dave. so he didn't start out with hostility to this day. >> she spent her career working for the federal government. >> that is right. i think his interest in politics dirty to accelerate once he met lynne cheney in high school and throughout college and after college he majored in political scared as a matter of fact, the only given half i regret that i heard dick cheney under in 10 hours across three days of interfering had n

this is not an invention of dick cheney and don rumsfeld. it was, actually, a creation of the cia during the cold war. so in one of the first cases of extraordinary rendition that i'm aware of, it's a remarkable story. there was a young, brilliant scholar named jesus who was a refugee from basque, spain. he fled the government after the war. ended up, unfortunately, jumping out of the frying pan into the fire because he ended up in the dominican republic which was then under the brutal rule of rafael trujillo. when he fell afoul of dictatorship, he fled there and ended up in new york city where he was studying for his ph.d. in columbia and working as a lecturer in columbia. well, his ph.d. thesis was about, actually, an inside look -- because he'd had some inside information -- about the brutality of the trujillo dictatorship. and true ohio's agents were -- trujillo's agents were everywhere. he was backed strongly by the cia, by the eisenhower government because he was, supposedly, anti-communist. that's all you had to be in those days to ge

bush and dick cheney and don rumsfeld had to say about their view about iraq.i listened very carefully and i said, they are wrong. i voted against the war in iraq. and if you go to my website, or to youtube, listen to what i said on the floor of the house about my fears about what would happen if we invaded iraq. it gives me no pride to tell me, no joy to tell you that much of what i feared would happen did happen. that was then. now is now. ad now we are confronted with barbaric organization called s s isis, which in my view, must be destroyed. but what we must be is not just tough. we must be smart. and to be smart in my view means we must not get our young men and women in the military bogged down in perpetual warfare in the quagmire of the middle east. what that means is that the the united states must form a strong and coordinated coalition. jordan, made af very important point. what he said is obviously terrorism is an international issue, impacts the world. but it is primarily an issue of the muslim people, because groups like isis have hijacked their re

this is the future of warfare is space and there have been people like don rumsfeld for 20 years that have been talking about this next step in how countries wage war against one another. fascinating. >> what's also fascinating, a great correspondent who has been covering this beat for a while, knows the pentagon up one side and down the other, says it's really a place that has great access. there's much mor than you have at the whiteouse and other places. and david is such a great correspondent. this is part of, as you know, a reporters and how they explore the subjects that they cover. >> another brilliant idea by charlie rose. >> i love the question he asked yesterday, do you two know any women that are covering the news that could be on my program? norah and i went, hmm, do you know anybody, norah? >> no, that's not what she said. she said when do i show up. >> we'll let everybody know when that date is. >> i'm going to set my dvr. >>> washington post correspondent jason rezaian is due to land shortly in thee united states. "the post" released new video thursday of him with his wi

there are people like don rumsfeld have been talking for years about how countries wage war against onevering this beat for a while, says a it's really a place that has great access, much more than at the white house and other places, and david is such a great correspondent and this is part of a series i'm doing about the great reporters and the subject they explore and how they cover. >> another bright idea by charlie rose. >> do you two know any women far covering the news that could be on my program? norah and i went, hmm, do you know anybody, norah? >> she said when do i show up? >> let me know on that date. >>> "washington post" correspondent jason rezaian is due shortly to return to the united states. he has spent 545 days in iran's prison. to other americans freed with rez siaian returned to the u.s. thursday. [ crying ] . >> those are happy, happy tears and hugs. beautiful to see. another man returned from an iranian prison and he was taken in 2013. he's saying he's happy to finally be home. >> despite all the difficult eities, thank god for everyone's support, everybody are the

bush and dick cheney and don rumsfeld and all those guys had to say about their view about iraq, i listened very carefully and i said, they are wrong. i voted against the war in iraq. [applause] sen. sanders: and if you go to my website, go to youtube, listen to what i said on the floor of the house about my fears about what would happen if we invaded iraq and it gives me no pride to tell you new york no joy to tell you that much of what i feared would happen, did happen. that was then, now is now. and now we are confronted with a barbaric organization called isis which in my view must be destroyed. but, what we must be is not just tough. we must be smart. and to be smart in my view means we must not get our young men and women in the military bogged down in perpetual warfare in the quagmire of the middle east. [applause] what that means is that the united states must form a strong and coordinated coalition. king abdullah of jordan made a very important point a few months ago and what he said is, obviously terrorism is an international issue, impacts the whole world. but it is primarily an