sr.'s permission. >> there was a whispered conversation he says he heard between don junior and his father. matt miller, following up on that, the implications for the president, assuming that the justice department procedures and reg s obtain, and that ther isn't going to be legal action against the president, what are the implications of this kind of testimony? >> i think it depends, if the justice department is able to corroborate it. if you look at the allegations he made, this conversation that he says that he overheard the president have with roger stone, there probably would be corroboration of that. at the very least, there would be phone records of roger stone calling the president's office, bob mueller would be able to obtain that. if you go back and look at the indictment of roger stone, mueller alleged in that filing that stone had contacted senior campaign officials, he didn't say who, didn't say if it was donald trump or others, in june or july and informed them that wikileaks dumps were coming. so the statement that michael cohen made today would track what mueller has alread