we believe the don trump is going to plead not guilty to having committed a crime. what we have not heard from donald trump, who has a stream of consciousness on social, on truth social and other platforms, what we have not heard from donald trump or any of his allies is an argument that he did not do the things that the justice department is charging here. now you have an opportunity to defend himself in court, but i think politically it's going to be very difficult for everybody to stand behind him in the republican party. maybe they will do it, but it will become more difficult for them to have credibility if they stand by him and he is not able to make the argument that he didn't do the things here, that he didn't withhold nuclear secrets of the united states in these documents, that he did not try to hide them. you go through all of these counts, and not once have we heard on trump say he did do. it in fact, he has said that these documents belonged to him. >> but, shawn, of course he would. remember, what are one of the most notable things that donald trump sai

>> look, barring a judges order, don trump is going to say whatever donald trump wants to say. i think we have a six years of evidence that just because don trump says it, doesn't mean that the majority of the american people believe it. in reality, probably quite the opposite. i think this white house has to be enormously careful as they have been in talking about this indictment. they are far more likely to give trump supporters ammunition that this is about a political opponent than it is about the rule of law if they comment. when i was in the white house, there are only a stern number of people that can even pick up the telephone and call the department of justice. i have no doubt that that is the same in the biden white house and i don't think there is much to be gained by just joe biden trying to frame what prosecutors are going to frame for more jointly and far more effectively then he will from what many will discount as a political lens. >> listen, i just say, can the video that we are just showing as you are talking, you saw don trump, he went into that restaurant af

reality winners defense attorney, the realtor two justices from don trump is currently benefiting from, next. -- judicial system is careful and guards the rights of those accused as well of the rights of the victims who are affected. and you hopefully elect or appoint good judges. >> the call judges for a reason, which means it requires good judgment. thank you so. vance still ahead she, was confined to prison before trial for taking one dog classified document. reality winners defense attorney, the realtor two justices from don trump is currently benefiting from, next. >> since leaving office more than two years ago with hundreds of classified documents, don trump has received consistently special treatment from the u.s. government. the federal government bent over backwards to offer the ex president extra latitude. they gave him opportunity after opportunity to return the classified documents that were removed from the white house and left all over mar-a-lago from the ballroom to the bathroom. as special counsel jack smith's indictment makes clear, they did everything in their power

this ain't a documents case it is in his understated way jack smith told the world today the don trump's conduct with united states put it at grave risk. a trial prosecutors will be even more explicit. this is about national security, about trump keeping nuclear secrets in the bathroom, the u.s. war plans next to the shower. >> glenn kirschner, i think we now know what rich's. rich is having so many bathrooms you can use one of them just for classified documents. >> lawrence, you know what else is rich? using your attorneys in further earns of your crimes. it's remarkable when you read through this indictment, this speaking indictment, how donald trump and his coconspirator, is criminal associate, mr. nauta, we're desperately trying to hide boxes of classified documents, not just from the fbi, the national archives, and doj officials, but from donald trump's own lawyers. and lawrence, these lawyers were trying to protect donald trump's interests by going through the boxes, conducting diligent searches, and returning everything to the department of justice and to the grand jury pursuant t

there is an interview that norah o'donnell did with joe biden said very clearly, no, don trump, as theormer president, does not get any more classified information. >> yeah. could there have been a better assessment of judgment there by biden or what? >> and by the way, that was about two weeks into the biden presidency. just about immediate. >> and that wasn't even tied into anything about handling classified information after leaving mar-a-lago. that was no doubt tied up in january 6th, but that was a very prescient moment in a good decision by the current president regarding whether or not he could trust the former president to safeguard security information. and you think about, it as you read through the indictment of just how cavalier donald trump is with all this, just how much he disregarded all the rules, and no doubt disregarded the guidance that his lawyers probably tried to give him. think about this team of lawyers that have been around, from evan corcoran, tim palette aretha, james trusty, all qualified lawyers who know what they're doing by and large. they understand the

and even if the guy is don trump, i think that still pertains. think particularly on the question of national security, i am curious to see, to your point about christie, if other people attacked him for him, how it does play out in public opinion. >> i think it's very difficult, as we all know, to predict the republican primary voters. but if i were rhonda santas or any of these candidates trying to differentiate at this point they're double digits down, i would make the argument, i'm just as conservative and just as wackadoo, they won't say it like that, but on some of these issues, as donald trump. but i'm not weighed down by the anchor of multiple indictments. i don't have all of this weigh me down. so you want somebody who's going to push the country on covid, push the country on rule of law, challenge article two of the constitution which rhonda santas has already said, i will do that. but i don't have indictments. we don't know how that would play with republican primary voters. obviously this is much more likely. i'm just not sure more di

there is an interview that norah o'donnell did with joe biden said very clearly, no, don trump, as thehave been a better assessment of judgment there by biden or what? >> and by the way, that was about two weeks into the biden presidency. just about immediate. >> and that wasn't even tied into anything about handling classified information after leaving mar-a-lago. that was no doubt tied up in january 6th, but that was a very prescient moment in a good decision by the current president regarding whether or not he could trust the former president to safeguard security information. and you think about, it as you read through the indictment of just how cavalier donald trump is with all this, just how much he disregarded all the rules, and no doubt disregarded the guidance that his lawyers probably tried to give him. think about this team of lawyers that have been around, from evan corcoran, tim palette aretha, james trusty, all qualified lawyers who know what they're doing by and large. they understand the general idea of how this is supposed to work, and they have a client who just won't

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tom fitton even went on newsmax to claim, quote, don trump cooperated. this is all happening in just one of the two federal cases being investigated by special counsel jack smith. donald trump is also facing potential criminal charges for his actions on january 6th and his role in trying to overturn the 2020 election. we know donald trump called the georgia secretary of state, brad raffensperger, to pressure him to change the election results. we have that phone call. and now, new emails obtained by the philadelphia inquirer, show that donald trump called in the estate senator doug mastriano in december of 2020 to pressure him to pedal election conspiracy theories. quote, that trump had been in contact with mastriano and other pennsylvania legislative leaders in december 2020 has been previously reported in the media and documented by the house january six committee that investigated the attack on the capitol. but the new emails reveal additional details about trump 's pressure campaign in pennsylvania and provide behind the scenes glimpse into how it was

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. >> and tonight, don trump finally, after two and a half years, of thinking about it, has come up with a motive for why he illegally took classified documents and other government documents when he left the presidency. >> many people have asked me why i had these boxes. why did you want that? the answer, in addition to having every right under the presidential records act, is that these boxes were containing all types of personal belongings. many, many things. shirts, and shoes, and everything. i hadn't had a chance to go through all the boxes. it's a long, tedious job, takes a long time. which i was prepared to do but i have a very busy life. i have had a very busy life. >> and now to consider the new trump defense, leading off our discussion tonight is andrew weissmann, former fbi general counsel and former chief of the criminal division in the eastern district of new york. he is a professor in practice at nyu law school. also neil catchall, former acting u.s. solicitor general. and professor georgetown law. they're both in his in b.c. legal analysts and bradley moss is with his nati

last night on "the beat" we reported how his role might amount to a john dean or don megan. trump saying i don't want anybody looking through my boxes. what happens if we don't respond at or play ball with the feds? quote, wouldn't it be better if we just tell them we don't have anything here, which is a lie we all know, and isn't it better if there are no documents? again, from the lawyer. that is an estimation of what trump said at the time saying, well, wouldn't it be better if we lied and say there are no documents when they are, and we know he's charge would a false statement, lie. then you have this thing we talked about today, the plucking motion was donald trump trying to persuade or cajole or illegally demand his lawyers just pluck out the bad stuff, and the lawyer said he made kind of a funny motion. he said, why don't you take the secret documents to your hotel room and if there's anything

even today, kevin mccarthy was pressed on cnbc about whether or not he felt don trump was the strongest possible candidate in the republican primary, given that he has all these legal problems, and in a rare a moment of honesty mccarthy conceded he wasn't exactly sure. then it was reported that made on trump and his allies man kevin mccarthy quickly ran so right leaning outlet to change his point of view on this, saying that he thought donald trump was the strongest and was even a fundraising page was put out around it. i mean, that is a microcosm of the way you're gonna see house republicans respond to the ongoing legal problems of donald trump. not only are they gonna publicly support him in every way they can, they're also gonna use the mechanism of the house of representatives to find that covered through investigations, through judiciary committee, through the oversight committee, attacking the current president, joe biden, as a way to distract from the issues the don trump is dealing with. now whether or not there had any impact on the legal case remains to be seen. but it is no q

rudy giuliani, don trump's one-time lawyer, maybe taking steps to cooperate with federal investigators. as you may know, in addition to the classified documents case, currently awaiting trial, special counsel jack smith is also investigating donald trump 's attempts to subvert democracy greasy and overturn the election. that investigation it appears giuliani is now cooperating. and new york times reports, quote, rudy giuliani, who served as former president trump's personal lawyer, was interviewed last week by federal prosecutors investigating trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election. the session with giuliani touched on some of the most important aspects of the special counsel's inquiry into the way that trump sought to maintain his grip on power after losing the election to joe biden. a lot of people that try to steal the 2020 election but maybe john eastman the architect of a coup, no one is arguably more culpable than that man you see there on the right, rudy giuliani. in his capacity as trump's personal attorney, giuliani was the ex presidents point person for the so-called f

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it's very much in don trump's favor. possible. of course if the trial gets pushed until after the 2024 election and trump were to be elected president in the 2024 election, he could just order his justice department to shut the whole case down. judge cannon will rule as long as she is in control of the case she will rule on every motion entered by trump's lawyers, potentially slowing down the proceedings. she will have a final say on which jurors are picked to hear the evidence. she will have discretion over the evidence herself itself. she will see which evidence a testimony the prosecution is allowed to present as part of their case along with the defense. in the end, she could decide the government has improved its case and direct verdict of acquittal, even before the defense takes their turn. the judge has incredible discretion in this matter, and this is a very unusual judge to be in charge. joining us now is brandon in graphic, former justice department on counsel mueller's team. also assistant tierney general. also

. >> the reaction to don trump's -- is fueling concerns a new headline in the new york times reads trumpts. among the examples, republican congressman andy biggs calling for an eye for an eye. and trump junior fiancÉe kimberly guilfoyle hosting retribution -- then there is this message from kari lake at the georgia republican convention. >> if you want to get to president trump, you're gonna have to go through me and you're gonna have to go through 75 million americans just like me. i'm going to tell you -- most of us are card-carrying members of the nra. >> joining me now is don calloway, democratic strategist and founder the national voter protection action fund. susan del percio, republican strategist and david jolly, former republican congressman from florida. both msnbc political analysts. that was kind of chilling, guys. don, at the times is reporting that political violence experts say this portrayal of the indictment is an act of war is increasing the risk of actions. wordy -- where do you put the level of risk right now? >> that was significant. i had not seen those clips. frank

despite the mounting of evidence in the indictment of don trump's once loyal fans in congress are notrge, froze people on my side of the aisle believe when it comes to donald trump, there are no rules. you can do the exact same thing and something very similar as the democrat and nothing happens to you. >> hold on a second, a senator. >> the leading candidate for president of the united states on the republican side is being prosecuted by his opponent. >> that is how lindsey graham sees that, of course. not actually the truth there. and we see chile's now from capitol hill. obviously, we have been hearing more and more stuff like this from the republican party since this indictment was in fact on the field. we're gonna hear much more as they return to the capital this week. take us through it. >> exactly, what you heard there from that clip from senator lindsey graham who by the way did not defend what the form president did. he was only pointing out that this is political in nature according to him. what the former president did in lindsey graham size is the same as democrats have do

. >> don trump is now been criminally indicted more times than he was ever elected. >> -- related to the alleged miss handling of classified documents. he has a pled not guilty. >> there was a weighty mood in that courtroom, you could feel that this was a historic day walking. in >> mr. trump sat stone faced. arms tightly folded across his chest. >> everything we witnessed today was self inflicted by donald trump. >> he literally is obsessed with the boxes. why was he so obsessed with the boxes that you want to take them on vacation? >> i'm not gonna start commenting on the various -- candidates that we have running for president. >> it is a daunting situation for the former president, were only at the beginning. >> it tells me that he has a viable defense. >> i did everything right and they indicted me. >> why does not trump realize that he has the right to remain silent? ♪ ♪ ♪ >> good evening once again i'm stephanie ruhle. this was a day unlike any other in american history. donald trump, a former commander in chief, appeared in a court as a defendant in a case brought by the gove

it >> notably absent, the former president. >> would you say that don trump is not here?ppy to be here. i love the people here. i think this is a great event. >> senator joni leading the roast in right. former vice president mike pence is not yet a candidate but writing yesterday. and expected to announce his challenge of trump this week. >> i expect we'll be back in iowa on wednesday. >> a few more times after that? >> it's entirely possible. >> eight months from the iowa caucus, candidates just introducing themselves. >> are you gonna caucus for? i'm >> mingling, it with haley, members among the crowds. >> mr. desantis your guy? >> i'm a totally listening right now. i have not made up my mind at all. >> you've got two candidates. who are? they >> trump into. santa's >> not out of person trump. >> nikki haley taking a shot at trump posting on social media account congratulations to kim jong-un after the world health organization added north korea to its executive board. >> -- kim jong-un as a thug. in a tyrant. he threatened us. there is nothing to congratulate. >> a maj

matters -- before trump gets passed meatball ron, he's really going to have disbeans meat head don. trump versus trump ma may be biggest matchup of them all with 45 and lost list of past achievements with battle of xiement donald into a deeper sanctioned trap with less than stellar statements like this. >> why not hand them over then? >> because i had a box i want to go through the box and get all of my personal things out. i don't to hand that over to -- >> i want to go through box and get my golf shirts. trump may end up beating himselfs proves that anyone in politics is beatable there's tons of time left in the race. but the longer desantis staying in negative double dimghts less likely he is to overcome the deficit. regardless of what trump impulsively admits to and if he presurveillance thanks to weaponize indictments, a nation that addicted to binge watching reality politics eager for blood sport would be bored and disappointing watches tallahassee titan slice and dice with a young and shiny political -- desantis biden is shooting fish in a barrel. and they would have to employ merc

trump's and drumm's family do you think the doj would be content two misdemeanor tax violations if don trump, jr. ivanka had massive tax violations and deferred gun charge? i don't think so. of course a very angry joe biden didn't feel the need to explain himself. >> how involved were you in your son's's text message? were you involved? >> no! [laughter] >> little angry there joe. anyway, he thinks he's untouchable. he can't believe a reporter is even asking about this serious real scandal a day after hunter's sweetheart deal with the doj biden proudly flaunted his son at white house state dinner where attorney general immediately merrick garland was in attendance and according to my sources the president's crooked son has been living at the white house at various times but appears on no visitor logs. the biden's in your face conducts is so appalling even democrats are growing uneasy. jean pierre canceled an appearance on the view saying she was stantdzing in solidarity with striking writers. that's why the show is so bad. they script it. which is totally unbelievable according to the "new y

he says it's game over for don trump. rse this is just one of multiple state and federal investigations into trump that could result in an indictment this summer. the first indictment, though, didn't seem to make a political dent. but as these pileup and potentially get more serious that could change. nobody knows more about politically-charged cases in the middle of presidential campaigns than fbi director, former fbi director james comey. i sat down with him at his home this week to discuss the legal perils surrounding the former president. >> you've said that the mar-a-lago documents case is the strongest against trump. and there's new reporting, prosecutors have recording from 2021 in which trump acknowledged he knowingly retained documents that he knew were classified. if you are prosecuting him, or just giving your experience. how would you use that evidence to help the case? how much does it help a case like the? >> i once that without planning it lordy, i hope there are tapes. >> not about this case but it's very a

you are making an argument for, you have to be the nominee, you have to make an argument for why don trumpcause that -- and it's even more true when it is donald trump, who is very interesting, who is very media savvy and who is willing to say outrageous things all the time. the other candidates are boring. the idea that they are going to get media attention from boring aspects of their platforms, when donald trump is out there, is just crazy. if you are going to be on television, you have to be talking about him. and if you have to be talking about him, you have to be talking about why you should be nominating him. chris christie seems to get. that the other candidates in this race, i don't know what it is they really think they are doing. because whatever they are -- to vote for donald trump. one of them is articulating a theory of how they are going to convince them people to vote for -- >> emma, your thoughts? >> i do think we need a model in this race for substantive engagement and transparency. and i think it's refreshing to see someone who is willing to call out trump. and we have s

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because this is the one time we really see, one of few times in the indictment or don trump is actually doing something. so i think you'll see happening is people trying to piece together the kilos. okay, he's clearly showing them something. >> you know because you have prosecuted these cases. when they get into court they are gonna play the tape and the jury is gonna be following along with the transcript. and then they ramp on those witnesses, they are gonna play it again, and they are gonna say, when this was happening, what happened in the room. he held up a piece of paper, what did you see? i saw a red cover and the word secret on it. did he feel about that first page? did you see a document behind it? did it also say secret? they will unfurl layer by layer what they saw and what they were exposed to. did they discuss giving it to you, yes they did, they said well maybe we can declassify. so i am and, all of that is gonna come out. transcript was damning. tape brings it to life. human witnesses bring it home. >> but even though -- >> i'm sorry, that main person who could reboot, it

miami court appearance, are we getting any sense of don trump psyche at the time? he's at least one reports suggest he is alarmed at what he saw on the indictment. we >> look, i think donald trump is someone that thought that he could always out-run accountability. and situations like the one that he found himself in. he was extremely successful at doing this. as a businessman, in new york, he was president, he was able to be protected by the fact that president of the united states cannot be indicted. and by the fact that congress was controlled at different times enough by his party if that had extreme loyalty to him. and he has been stripped of all of those protections, now that he is a former president, he does not control the justice department. he does not control who runs the justice department. he can be indicted as a former president, and now he has been indicted twice. and there is an investigation and at least two other matters. one by the special counsel, and one in georgia. so the week -- he is facing consequences that he's never faced before. at the sa

in other words don trump is not being singled out. cia director's, national security advisers. under democratic administrations who have been charged and prosecuted and sentenced for doing far less than what is alleged to hear. >> it's particularly rich given you have the former president talking about they could do this to any american and it's like, correct, you actually if anything, this took a little bit longer given the fact that you once held office. joyce, timing key to this trial i think it's the thing we will come back to. you know for msnbc.com trump loves to delay trials. courts have taken notice, what does that mean for his legal strategy? >> well his strategy of course will be delay. his hope will be to delay proceedings for so long that there will never be a trial because he will be back in office and he will pardon himself. of course that's part of the clock the jack smith has taken. it's now complicated by the selection of judge in this case. we now know that judge aileen cannon will be hearing this case. . she's the district judge in the southern district of fl

is to believe the don trump is still president? othered. way that society has learned to live with the existence of a paranoid part of its politics but not to be overtaken by it. is that the way you think about it? >> well, yes, and every country is different, every country has its own history and inheritance. i feel that one of the things i am starting to get more comfortable recognizing in our own age is that in a democracy there is a kind of centrifugal force, where in a democracy while you're trying to do? essential you're trying to run a country where everyone gets to say. there's always going to be some group of people in a democracy who feel like they are not getting enough of what they want out of this democracy and what this country needs is more of what they want. [laughter] so we need to get rid of democracies on me and people like me can run this thing because we are supposed to. that's the constant tension in a democracy. it constantly throws of extremist movements and authoritarian movement, particularly from the right, from t

don trump shows up with attorneys, they are codefendants.es not have an attorney. >> well, i remember when there was another group of coconspirators who, after watergate, certainly went their own direction and did not hang out together. so, it's kind of surprising. i think if he had a good lawyer, he would be telling him that he ought to be doing his own thing and strike his own pose. so, it was a little bit confusing that he is hanging in tight. i guess he is still employed by mr. trump, he still is his valet, and he doesn't seem to appreciate that mr. trump is the one who got him in the whole, the trouble he is in. and he is in a heap of trouble. so, it was unusual today. >> a member of the sing, the -- no man is a hero to his valet, but that might not be true when the case of mr. nauta. you might actually still be quite enamored of mr. trump. john, who do you think the obstruction case is more clear cut against? walt nauta or donald trump? >> well, with a conspiracy, all you have to do is show that there is a mutual agreement either openl

don trump was protected as he was clothes in the power of the presidency. but he is that on january 6th to try to stay in power, to essentially say that he was a king, that he was above the constitution. that is the dog that hasn't hunted. we don't know the specifics of this indictment but we are presuming that has to do with the documents case. there is the other piece of what jack smith is investigating, which is the criminality around january 6th, for which a lot of oath keepers and proud boys are sitting, are about to be sentence or have been sentenced for some seditious conspiracy. >> trump makes you feel like if you still reside on earth one, where facts are facts and opposite up is down is down, the year the craze, one in a fear appears that jack smith resides on earth one also, and whereas mueller spent 23 months from the gate was hemmed in by the olc memo that said you candidate a president, it also impeded his ability to articulate crimes that trump admitted, that he discovered in the 23 months long investigation. as you smartly pointing out, all

there had been in arguments as the statements that don trump made while president might be protected by some sort of immunity, because the justice department had weighed in on that but now by amending the complaint of these things that he made, statements he made after he left office, i think it takes any of those arguments off the table, a jury will be able to hear about this defamation, in gosh if there's ever stronger case i don't know what it is for proving defamation? the day after a jury was found that he made defamatory statements against her, and he did in fact sexually assault her, he says it again, and so i think not only is liability very strong here, but i think the probability of very strong punitive damages is so much higher, just because it's on notice now. a jury has found that his statements were false, and so i think she is in very good legal standing. i give her credit for bringing these case. i think many plaintiffs would've been declared -- the fact that he continues to say these things with impunity, i think it makes her courageous in the right move for her to g

you know the most colorful now that the popular trump is only growing astronomically among republicans, despite the fact that 56% of americans believe that don ahead of early landing party because of their support among the republicans, since politics is built on opposition to the state, now when i go to the state, they ask how many different threads will get tangled in gulliver's lilliput to stop you. accused, although again , this is trump's struggle against reality , he has no voters, he does not have a program, everything he says is accused of committing some sins, or he is trying to show look at the fools, what kind of bribe was there, or did he have a specific document or whatever, but he does not propose any program for the future of the country, and i am such a scumbag for all the republican candidates because they are now stuck in this spiral . when the water goes down and that's how they get stuck , they get out because they can't talk about anything else except trump, no one, especially the republicans , don't want to talk about anything except trump, and it's interesting that at the time how in trump is sitting in court eh biden

trump. and whether you agree with don the trump politically or not -- donald trump politically or not, mostes this as weaponizing the executive branch to take out your political enemies. and look, joe biden wants to give donald trump a death sentence for documents. he's facing hundreds of years for mishandling documents, and they want with him to die in jail. yet hillary clinton is standing free today, she's brag about the two-tier system of justice, raising money off of it about her e-mails. joe biden has classified documents, he mishandled them as vice president. mike pence mishandled documents as well, so all these people are held to a different standard except for donald trump, and i think people see what -- it for what it is. maria: what a moment to be congresswomen and on the oversight committee no less. what are you going to do about it? you are an elected official, the both of you, and we are watching this two tiers, two applications of the law. what can you do about it, congresswoman? >> well, we are the as the oversight committee, i want to go back to treasury. i'll take anna paul

don trump is not won anything since 2016 he made the point that independents opted into voting for him in 2016 like let's give this example. but they haven't since. -- i think you heard him sending a message. he said something interesting the alluded to a billionaire tax. when you asked about having the wealthy pay more which seemed a little out of step with a lot of conservative norms but it goes back to your point about a strong social safety net. i think there is a plate independents that he is doing and reminding folks that donald trump hasn't won. >> a quick point, is that the main focus now? maybe betting on what you are betting on, you're going to see these voters come out. but this is about going for those independents. >> i know there's a couple iowa voters in their. that's probably as close he will get to and i will voter in this election. that was a tailor message for new hampshire candidates who can participate in an open primary process. not to mention democrats. as you know joe biden won't even be on the ballot in the new hampshire primary. they're going to be looking for

trump? i don't see it. i 'ust don-t. lfi trump? i don't see it. i 'ust don't. i mean, i trump? i'm �* trump? i don't see it. ijust| don't. i mean, i'm surprised trump? i don't see it. ijust i don't. i mean, i'm surprised at how unprepared many of them are that i have seen to date thus far, had tim scott to that category, nikki haley, i can go down the list. and trump despite, again all of his woes and all of his challenges, they're running the best campaign right now. they're hitting all on cylinders despite the fact of the legal channels he's face —— challenges he's facing. that tells you a lot there of the republicon field in and of itself. donald trump owns the republican party right now, owned the attention of the country, the media and everybody else, and even on — one of his — you have to say it's one of his worst days, he's making the best out of it ljy he's making the best out of it by raising money defining the debate and defining the terms that this race will be waged. helena, i want to bring you in here because we have been speaking about the man who is considered th

if eric trump don jr. barron trump. ivanka trump had these massive violations tax and a deferred gun charge. i don't think. now, of course, today a very angry joe biden did not feel the need to explain himself as per usual. >> take a look. >> president biden, how involved were you in your son's chinese shakedowns text message? were you sitting there? were you. well, i was. and i don't know where you know ,little angry there, joe. anyway, he thinks he's untouchable. he can't believe a reporter is even asking this serious scandal. this real scandal. a day after hunter, a sweetheart deal with the doj, biden proudly flaunted his son at a white house state dinner where attorney general conveniently merrick garland was also in attendance. and according to my sources, the president's crooked son actually has been living the white house at various times, but appears on no visitor logs. the bidens in-your-face conduct is so appalling that now even democrats are growing uneasy. karine jean-pierre actually canceled her appearance

when you face this effort by trump to turn sbu -- to drag you into his ongoing plots which may be indicted. the doj's targeting. donou may remember his face or name from the mueller probe. but this matters tonight because he had the same issue of trump's ploy, trying to pull him into crimes. he resisted in realtime, sometimes vowing to resign if a legal plan was pursued. as time went on, there were leaks, other accounts. it became clear that lawyer was one of the initially secret star witnesses against trump. we all lived through it. mcgahn had this inside track. we saw the plots up close. he saw what trump was ordering, sometimes making it happen, sometimes pulling back, and he saw that if he let trump pull him in, he would have his own legal exposure. and that's a dynamic, a history, a kind of a legal history that someone like don mcgahn, such a well trained and experienced lawyer would understand well. he will remember what you and so many others who follow the news remember, the watergate history. it was a lawyer with the exact same job that mcgahn held, white house counsel john dean who found a president using

and then shay see -- they see don do trump has his home raided at 6:00 in the morning and this constant persecution, and people are ready to say let trump have another shot at it because we know he's motivated to clean out the deep state. david: even if before the election he's convicted for a crime? >> i think people will see it for what it is. this is, in fact, as donald trump calls it, a witch hunt. what else could it be? david: mike huckabee, good to see you. have a wonderful july 4th, thank you very much is. best to your family. >> thanks, david, you too. david: we have shannon bream here breaking the decision by the supreme court striking down college admissions based on race, reversing a decision made 19 years ago. ♪ ♪ >> i cannot stress this enough, i have been a civil rights attorney for 30 years. this is a great day for equality in this country. it's a great day for the equal protection clause. ♪ ♪ tourists tourists that turn into scientists. tourist taking photos that are analyzed by ai. so researchers can help life underwater flourish. ♪ we moved out of the city so our littl

but if they bring the case quickly they, they put donald trump in a, in a trial and find him guilty. yes, there, it's conceivable that don. busy trump can be in jail and set before actually looked at that possibility. but guess what? he can still run for president from jail if that were to happen. you know, i myself think that's a highly unlikely scenario. but this is the 1st time in american history that a former president has been indicted for criminal federal charges. and so it is very uncharted and, and it's, it's a very unique moment. there is going to be a chapter in future history books that starts with what just happened. i'm sure, steve, i believe there are audio recordings of trauma speaking about knowing these were classified documents, which are the flyers in the face of what he said previously. how strong is the evidence that we're looking right? well, look, i mean it, it, it looks very damning. and, and right now the texts of these audios are making their way around twitter the new york times as publish them. and it's very, very clear in these, in these conversations that donald trump recognizes that he doe