and that's what don verrilli is. in addition to being an extraordinary lawyer, he is, he has these incredible personal skills, and he is an incredible problem solver. and, and he has this sort of total professionalism and integrity that, of course, the best lawyers have. and i see that all the time. i hear about it, you know, i was sg myself, and i got to know the folks in the sg's office pretty well and still talk to them. and i sort of hear stuff about what's going on in the solicitor general's office. and i have to say i get sometimes a little bit envious, because everybody in this solicitor general's office talks about don like they have never seen his like. and i kind of think, well, you know, what was i, you know? [laughter] chopped liver or, you know? but the way that the people in the solicitor general's office feel about don is just such a testament to what leadership can be. and then in the court we see not only month in and month out his fantastic lawyering skills, but also this kind of consummate professi

don verrilli responded we're talking about constitution we were talking of the constitution of the of illinois you know the case that for now. you have a bunch of justices that often go when they do go on television say they get that question are you a political group and they were course not or were justices we just look at the law and then you hear them argue from the bench the politics of it instead of the constitution it's pretty mind boggling what one of the larger implications of this case. i think it's quite narrow but it's going to have an impact you have unions that are already under attack for it and they also in the end they need funds to operate to do all of the things they do for union members in nonunion members and they have to represent so that in this case they lose three point six million dollars and that that particular union or the us like it the question is will well other states that have in other towns that have republican leadership will they try to figure out a way to create more of these quasi union. employees will you try to make the public union people more