this is don wadsworth, and this is burt bowers. he was responsible for radiological safety and at some point held a license -- >> supervisor kim: could we have the microphone because no one can hear you. both individuals can just speak at the mic. >> okay. let me introduce them, and then, you can ask whatever questions you want of them. don wadsworth, he has experience at hunters point for about a decade. he has a nuclear regulatory license issued in his name. he is a health phycisist. his company supplied the rag teches. many of those switched over to the companies that did the cheating. he's involved personally with the parcel a review that was done. this is burt bowers. he also had a decade at hunters point. he worked his way up to be the top radiological safety officer for tetratech, and he was one of the people who was fired from tetratech for objecting to what they were doing. i'll let you ask the questions that you want. >> supervisor kim: all right. can we ask questions? >> you can ask them anything you want. i do not expec