don wolfensberger is a well- known congressional scholar and a former chief of staff of the house rules committee. we will begin with brief opening comments beginning at the end of the table. we will have a brief opening statements from our guests. then there will be questions and answers with a guess. -- with the guests. we look forward to your participation. you can either sit or come up here, as you wish. >> i am happy to sit. let's sit. [laughter] good, thank you. can everyone herar? a guess you have set me up for this in terms of it being a struggle. i do think the constitution ranges with the kind of struggle you have described. it is a tension that involves the third branch as well. we should not leave that out. it is useful to recall some of the detail behind what went into the constitution. it is more or less a tax but. to say that the constitution separates powers. each time the constitution vests power, it states the nature of the power vested in the specific branch. each one has a home. what is important to understand about the institutions of government is that they represe

last but not least don wolfensberger director of project woodrow wilson center in washington is a wellnown, chris scholar and author of congress and the people and former chief of staff and longtime hill maysan chief of staff of house rules committee. we are when to begin with a brief opening comments starting with terry at the end and work our way down, and brief opening statements by the guests and then q&a exchange between the guests if they have any follow-up statements they want to make after each of them has their chants and finally q&a from the audience but there will be time for q&a from the audience and we look forward to your participation. you can either sit or come of here as you wish. terrie? >> i'm happy to sit. is the rest of the panel happy to sit? let's sit here and get all right, good. thank you. thank you,