chief forum, and matt lauer is being skewered for pushing back a little bit on hillary clinton over donal trpppened in the press conference. first of all, she was pressed about no ground troops, having them in iraq and syria. so that was serious. i do think thats the important. seven questions, baby steps, we'll get ten next time, then 15. this is the first time hillary clinton has been in full view for the press. so i think that that's important. >> i'm sorry to interrupt, but kr kristin makes a good point, that the journalists are scared to ask the tough questions. where is the journalism ere? >> iakeistis int. i hn't thoht aut it that way. surely that is possible, but i do think after what happened the night before, when matt lauer didn't push back on donald trump's big lie and didn't support the iraq war in 2008 where we know that he did, and you can check the "esquire" article updated for new details. >> i have to stop you there. >> mt ler spent half of his questioning about the e-mails. >>onaltrumpas a pvate tize he dn't he accs t mitaryinteigen. >> but is it okay for him to be a liar?