donald trump, but they did this transactional event for the sake of politics and came off just like that. it was just pure politics. >> okay. so i feel like we've launched heavily into eugene robinsons this matter? especially given the type of style we're talking about. above it all, rich, 1%, donald trump. this doesn't work when we look at the big picture and what this country and what people are looking for. correct? >> well, i think the timing of the trump endorsement was kind of awkward. i suspect it was because the reason the romney people decided to go ahead is that they were perhaps worried that trump might endorse newt gingrich. they didn't want that to happen. they'd rather take the endorsement and, you know, and the flak over the timing than have him go with newt. but you know, romney is awkward, obama can be chilly in some settings and warm in others. i think the awkwardness, the personal awkwardness is less of an issue, i think, than the sense that -- or the question about romney and whether he's in touch with the reality of the country. when he says, well, i'm not concerned about the very poor, you know, they have a safety net. and indicates later in what he says that,