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i was talking to a longtime rudy giuliani fan who says that rudy giuliani has gotten into the clown car with donaldse statements. america admire rudy giuliani after 9/11. when you're in a position of leadership you have to choose your words carefully. i assume this is what rudy giuliani believes and he's entitled to believe whatever he believes because he lives in the united states of america. however, he also knows that he's not like us or he doesn't love america is language that's been used by a fringe about this president for going on eight years now since he emerged as a national figure. if you're going to use those words, you're going to have the debate you're having now. he doesn't love america. you can say i wish he would clearly say we're fighting radical islamic extremists. i wish the president would say that. you can say i think the president too often wants to leave from behind and not project america power and be proud they're at the front of the line. you can debate him on policy on these issues without saying he doesn't love america. again, even if rudy believes that, he knows there a

chris, has rudy giuliani gone into donald trump territory here?nd is the significance the way other republicans running for the presidency or likely to the way they are reacting to all of this? >> you know i think he has marginalized himself in some real way. not just by this comment, andrea, but i think over the last yearish, he's made a number of comments that have put him there. i think part of this is a politician who is one of the best known politicians in the country who ran unsuccessfully in president in 2008 and likes the attention and limelight. when you are not in office or running for office it's harder to get that attention unless you say things that really sort of raise people's eyebrows. enter his comments of late. i would add his comments he made to maggie of the new york times in an interview on thursday night, which sort of weirdly doubled down while also making worse talking about well barack obama has a white mother et cetera et cetera. >> in fact we have that quotation here. some people thought it was racist. i thought that was

>> yeah i think if we look back at 2012 we've now got rudy giuliani playing the donald trump role.s kind of the carnival barker, he's shamed himself. he doesn't care. he's saying -- he's the id. he's saying what other people maybe won't say in quite the same way. then you've got the giuliani primary, rev. we're living through the giuliani primary where you have people like lindsey graham jeb bush, like rand paul like marco rubio who have distanced themselves, who really don't want to go all the way there and maybe hope that the republican party can beat the democrats without demonizing the president. then you've got bobby jindal hugs giuliani, then steps back then says an even nastier thing, and scott walker who some people are calling the front-runner. i can't quite see this but he's doing very well in polls. having this, what really is a strategy to say these are unimportant questions and i shouldn't have to answer them then to go to his e-mail list and say, give me money. >> right. >> because i'm engaging with it. and i'm trashing the liberal media to boot. >> let's not forget d

to have someone like rudy giuliani who was an icon fall down the stairs down to donald trump level ins embarrassing. he owes not just the president but the country an apology. >> you think -- do you agree? you don't like what rudy giuliani said. >> i don't. i've been highly critical of the president and his rhetoric on terrorism. i understand rudy giuliani is offended by what the president says. i watched the speech yesterday. it sounded like very much like he was apologizing for american exceptionalism. i was offended by that as well. however, i don't think it's appropriate for someone of rudy giuliani's stature -- i am from new york city. i lived through 9/11. i admire his leadership. for someone of that stature to really go below the national discourse and suggest that the president doesn't love the country, the president wasn't raised like the rest of us i just think that that's really inappropriate and not the conversation we should be having, which is int hisabout his policies which are terrible. we should have that debate. to question his -- >> should republican presidential ca

rudy needs to stop digging. i think he's walking into donald trump territory where mainstream people won't take him seriously. >> to cnbc territory where we have to have dollar signs in front of the conversation. what about jeb bush invading chris christie territory in terms of fund-raising. >> i would call it donors being pragmatic. they're not going to give money away and they look at chris christie really hasn't been able to explain a plausible scenario to get the knowledge nation and that's what this is about. think about it like a venture capitalist is looking for money. you give a business plan, show me that you have -- what kind of return on investment and right now christie looks like a long shot versus a jeb bush who clearly has an operation put together and you can see a plausible path. and i think, frankly, that's what's happening here. it's not personal to christie. it's business. >> any sense of where jeb is on the money raising trail behind some of the other guys, rand paul? is it too soon to tell how much he's got? >> here is the hint i take. their own camp is whispering, boy, to be a serious cont

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unfortunate for someone like rudy giuliani who honestly was not just an american hero american icon was a global and a global icon to now have fallen down the stairs into donald be saying things that really no global statesman could, would or should say about anybody. and i question now his patriotism. do you think that the american people are so stupid that not just once but twice to elect someone who hates the country. these are the kinds of things that i think are harmful for the republican brand. i think it is embarrassing to have someone of his stature saying these type of things. but it does go to this strategy that now apparently even giuliani has gotten tripped up in of trying to kind of other-ize the president. instead of saying we don't like his policies we'll say there is something about him that is not acceptable. i think that sits poorly in the mouths of a lot of people in this country. i hope that every gop candidate can make a decision on the front end. am i going to be high-minded the way marco rubio was. of course he is a patriot, i just don't like his ideas. or am i going to start trading in these -- again the guy said fever-swamp. his consp

donald trump land as a carnival barker. >> and now you have a piece out today, and people associate you with d.c. but you did used to live in new york. and rudyiuliani's brand when he was mayor of new york a lot of it was tied up in this hostile almost relationship between him and self-and african-americans. and that you could argue of what limited his growth as a politician politician. what do you make of this diving down deeper into the -- what do you make of it? >> i agree with joan's assessment. back when i was in new york around -- in 1999 after the police killing of deallo and our colleague reverend sharpton was leading protests at the police department against the mayor, people were getting arrested the highest ranking african-american official in new york city was a woman named virginia field she was the manhattan borough president and giuliani refused to meet with her and she was trying to work with her to diffuse the tensions. and when they did meet it was like a cold war summit with her climbing the stairs of gracy mansions and i got to interview giuliani and talked with him about the african-american community and what i came away