my favorite quotation post 9/11 period i will only get it partially correct, looked it up donald rumsfeld press conference on september september 18th, 2001. one week after 9/11. he said, we had a choice. either we could change the way we live which is unacceptable. where we could change the way they live and we chose the latter. that is what the iraq war and the larger so-called global war on terrorism was all about in the eyes of the architects. we will change the way they live so we do have to change the way we live off. so the stakes certainly included who owns the oil and can use it but partly. >> also in an end what andrew just said in the course of talking to veterans i talked to a great many who are be integrating into civilian life and it has presented challenges because as one of them put it to me as i'' in my book as representative of many, we know too much. we have spent to where the wars are and to other countries and we have seen no other people live in and we have seen the price other people pay for the american way of life. we know things that americans need to know but th

really by the pentagon and that you have to remember the pentagon was run at the time by wrong donald rumsfeld who was very very hardline very right wing. defense secretary determined. to use nine eleven to attack iraq from the very start so determined to prove that iraq was a major threat when actually it was a major threat and we do have this problem which didn't just occur with iraq of course it's occurred. with libya as world where countries which weren't major threats we've got involved in wars in which we didn't need to get involved in at all. the intelligence was fixed in america by the pentagon and by within the pentagon. and the cia reacted against that and tried to fight against it and there is some confusion over the detail there because the cia thought that my six got some stuff from when actually they got some stuff right that stuff particular stuff right. m i six of course relied too heavily because of the political pressure from above on sources which could not take the responsibility could not take that. did not have the or torah to that they were given by m i six calling that

just killed a bunch of people you know donald rumsfeld the treasurer of the u.s. people. right reading. this some of the shoots my brother in the leg not intentional because of it because it was night times four in the morning even the best given the mesh shoulders. are going to make mistakes this is this whole idea of brotherhood and author. and camaraderie in this sense it was in this context it has absolutely no place. the windswept journey to follow can be an act of penance in itself. doesn't all for excitement or adventure get many come here for months at a time some never leave its old they say that the same system. this is one of the holiest sites of the russian orthodox church home to a thriving ministry the lay community that woods with it and groups of volunteers that come and go throughout the year for the face folk this is a journey for the soul a pilgrimage. this is the place that has been consecrated to god for almost a thousand of years. people came here twenty some years ago it's. the mastic life on this island. that believing that. christ is the only sour

deeper about the contradictions and of our society than donald rumsfeld former defense secretary -- secretary better tombouctou were right now.rs whistle-blowers have been indicted under the espionage act and former cia officials imprisoned for blowing the whistle on water boarding.d the nuances of portage buto the most devastating part is he has used the saysolic credibility that a lot of liberals wouldno oppose. >> host: we had reaction ask calls after your panel. why you continual bash the president? why do you bash president obama? >> i don't see it as bashing president obama at all. there is a reason why journalism is the only sited job in the united states constitution. and that is because we have three branches of government. and if those three branches of power collude together against the interest of the people the press is the forth estate. and journalist have a role to take against those in authority. what i would say to the caller is go back and look at my record in reporting on clinton, bush j obama. i have been consistent towards those in power and that is a core tenant of journ

donald rumsfeld joins us. good evening, sir. >> good evening. >> why is it that president mandela could do something that nobody else could? what was it about him? >> he had some special qualities. he was a humble person with impressive grace, almost like royalty. he had good humor. and gentleness. but steel in his backbone and resolve and conviction. i think one thing that possibly was different about him, he had that wonderful ability to put himself in other people's shoes and try to look at tough issues from their perspectiie as well as his own. and that's an enormously valuable thing when you're wrestling with tough issues where people feel strongly. and you know, it gets to appreciate and look around the world today at the public dialogue and we can see how rare is it that people have that talent of putting themselves in the other person's shoes. and i would add forgiveness. not easy. for any of us, i suppose. but he clearly had the ability to behave in a way that suggested he truly forgave people who had

. >> donald rumsfeld, you can see everybody had their suit and ties and very early in the morning.t really underscores that president ford had no egotistic cal problemegotistical problemsh me taking pictures. he never said, i don't like this dave, i never heard him say that one time. >> i love this one with betty ford. how did you get her to do that? >> i didn't get mrs. ford to do that picture. it wouldn't have crossed my mind, it was the last day she was in the white house as a first lady. we walked past the empty cabinet room. this had been a male dominated room forever. she said i really wanted to dance on the table. she hopped up there and struck this pose. it goes to the heart of her personality, mischievous, fun loving woman. >> you've taken pictures of every president since nixon but this photo of george h.w. bush and barbara was quite unique. how did that happen? >> the gerald r. ford library opening. they were doing a formal picture, president bush 41 did this for my benefit. he was a guy who was jumping out much airplanes when he was 85 years old. mrs. bush saw what he w

donald rumsfeld joins us. good evening, sir. >> good evening.nt mandela could do something that nobody else could? what was it

>> to endorse one of donald rumsfeld's rules, if a problem is too large to solve? >> i don't think that is right right now. there are those that believe this is not just nuclear. there are great hopes for that in the long run. there is an interesting symmetry in the short term. there are domestic political reasons on both sides. he name of the game is getting the sanctions lifted and getting the economy back on track. you don't do that by complicating the problem and delaying a deal. there are still those the call the united states the great satan. there are still concerns among u.s. partners in the egion. hey think the u.s. is going to cut a deal that says, in exchange for iran's nuclear concessions, the united states is going to give iran a free hand in the middle east. that is not going to happen, but it is a concern. the iranian leadership wants to confine this to nuclear. if there is compliance and people are comfortable with it, it can open doors to do more things. starting off with areas of obvious common interest, broadening from there. >> i think that we h

donald rumsfeld joins us.t that president mandela could do something

how about the time donald rumsfeld extended a hand shake to saddam hussein. that's a nice, firm hand shake right there. but this is about more than just gop hypocrisy and the party's real leader let it out of the bag today. >> there are a lot of people trying to say ah-ha, it proves president obama is a socialist. we don't need him shaking his hand to know this. >> that's what it's about. that's what this is about. this whole charade is about painting our president as a socialist, as the other, as someone who pals around with terrorists. and what makes those attacks so ugly is that today was about something much bigger. it was about celebrating a life that was above that pettiness. >> it took a man like madiba to free not just the prisoner but the jailer as well. to show that you must trust others so that they may trust you. to teach that reconciliation is not a matter of ignoring a cruel past, but a means of confronting it with inclusion and generosity and truth. he changed laws, but he also changed hearts. >> mandela spent 27 years in prison, but was big en

these are the people targeted at the same time that donald rumsfeld and josÉ rodriguez to brand the programare on a book tour. that says a lot to me about the priorities in our society. the stories i try to tell him "dirty wars" are the people caught in the middle of the work, but also the men and women passed by the president of the united states is hunting down people who've been declared enemies of america and also telling the story of the movement like al-shabaab and amalia are al qaeda and the arabian tenants who benefit from the perception that u.s. is a gratuitous enemy and uses drones with impunity and will assassinate their church at the crime away from any declared battlefield. unless you believe in bizarre interpretations of the authorization for use of military force for justification for a war on the world. it's been 12 years 9/11. i was sitting on people come you should go back and watch the speech that representative barbara lee of california gave him the original blank check was written for the bush administration's global war because she was the only member of congress that

. >> that is the biggest problem with this, there are so many unknown unknowns as donald rumsfeld has said. we don't know all the problems going on and the administration is so determined to make sure everything is under control like kevin bacon in "animal house," everything is fine, stay calm as everybody's getting trampled. there is a real problem on the surface because in a pretty lawless declaration said they really, really, really would like the insurance companies to honor everybody's expectation of coverage what they have it or not, whether they have the paperwork or not, that is because they're terribly afraid of all these terrible stories of somebody over new year's eve having an accident thinking may have coverage and finding out they don't. bill: part of the problem is the white house, the administration is controlling the information. but that lead comes off when we move into 2014. >> that is right. big chunks of the lid have been off for a while. people in their daily experience coming to the conclusion this thing is an unbelievable mess. the problems and the messages mat

one was a young congressman from illinois named donald rumsfeld and another was one from kansas named dole. what that election really signified was the republican party was moving the center of gravity of the republican party was moving away from the eastern establishment. that the point it was in the midwest. but there were already beginning to be a significant number of republicans in the south in both houses of congress a threand would, of course, accelerate. and, you know, 40 years later, you could argue that the mid western party has become a largely southern and western party. >> al on twitter besides her familiar predispositions, did her drinking and being alone to raise the kids contribute to her drinking? betty ford's own words answer that question. she wrote two memoir. sheer some what she writes. i hated feeling crippled so i took more pills. now i know some of the pain i was trying to wipe out was emotional. jerry became minority leader of the house. i was beginning to feel sorry for myself. it was poor me. he gets the headlines and applause what about me. in 1965 about a

until his victory by three votes over charlie, one was a young congressman from illinois named donald rumsfeld and another from kansas named bob dole. what that election really significance any fide was the republican party was moving -- the center of gravity was moving away from the eastern establishment. at that point it was in the midwest but there are beginning to be a significant number of republicans in the south in both houses of congress, a trend that would accelerate. and 40 years later you could argue that the midwestern party has become allied with the southern and western party. >> on twitter this question aside from her predisposition did her being alone to raise the kids contribute to her drippinging? i'm going to let her own words answer that. she wrote two memoirs and here is some of what she writes. i hated feeling crippled so i took more pills. now i know some of the pain i was trying to wipe out was emotional. jerry became minority leader of the house but i was feeling sorry for myself. she goes on to write in 1965 about a year after i began mixing pain medication with alcoh

in 2001, donald rumsfeld said the pentagon had lost $2.3 trillion.nobody wants to say anything about that. we have the tea party people and their cause. i saw a woman carrying a sign that said keep your government's hands off my medicare. where do you stand on the tea party people? how can we fix the budget? host: we have talked about that a little bit, we will get mr. nussle to comment. guest: they are part of the process. it is great people want to be part of the political process and part of the policy process. they have an opinion. even if they were not part of any organization, they would still hold that opinion. whether it is disrespecting the tea party or the democratic party, it is silly. what needs to happen is a better understanding and a clear understanding of how all of those interests can be utilized in order to come up with a solution. not having a solution. not having an agreement or a decision. no decision is a rotten decision. as we have seen in washington. for those who are worried about waste, if you do not come to a decision, you

>> to endorse one of donald rumsfeld's rules, if a problem is too large to solve? >> i don't think that is right right now. there are those that believe this is not just nuclear. there are great hopes for that in the long run. there is an interesting symmetry in the short term. there are domestic political reasons on both sides. the name of the game is getting the sanctions lifted and getting the economy back on track. you don't do that by complicating the problem and delaying a deal. there is an interesting symmetry in the short term. there are domestic political reasons on both sides. the name of the game is getting the sanctions lifted and getting the economy back on track. you don't do that by complicating the problem and delaying a deal. there are still those the call the united states the great satan. there are still concerns among u.s. partners in the region. they think the u.s. is going to cut a deal that says, in exchange for iran's nuclear concessions, the united states is going to give iran a free hand in the middle east. that is not going to happen, but

. >> hossein just implicitly, endorsed one of donald rumsfeld's rules. is he right? >> i don't think that is right right now. there are those that believe this is not just nuclear. this is about long-term rapprochement in the region. , there are good hopes for that in the long-term. but there is an interesting symmetry between the u.s. and iran in the short term. both countries say, nuclear first, we must do nuclear first. the domestic and political reasons are on both sides for making nuclear first. for iran, the name of the game is getting the sanctions lifted and getting the economy back on track. you don't do that by enlarging and complicating the problem and delaying a deal. are really strong opponents in iran of engagement with the west. many who still call the united states the great satan. engaging with the united states on a broad range of issues is not very popular in a certain quarter. similarly, in the united states the name of the game, the initial name is stopping iran's advance to a more sophisticated nuclear program closer to nuclear weapons. and ther

but before donald rumsfeld and forgive -- redemption and forgiveness there needs to be justice. >> well >> a lot of parents are off the hook as well. >> e-mail us. what do you think of this, affluenza defense. i'm still frozen from being outside. >> very cold. >>> up next, they actually passed a bipartisan bill. but there is something you don't know about the house's new budget. how it could cost our troops. >> good morning, captain. the folks at msnbc not the only ones cutting ed schultz a check to fight for our organized labor. he's also getting paid by the unions he touts on tv. don't worry, ed says he can explain it all. ♪ ♪ >>> welcome back. members of the house heading home on vacation this morning, but not before they quickly approved a bipartisan plan to help balance the budget. it avoids a government shutdown, saves $85 billion, and rolls back part of the sequester. it goes to the senate for a vote next week. but who is going to pay for those cuts? pete hegseth says they're balancing the books on the backs of our veteran. >> it can be. >> why? >> because washington has been so

in 2001, donald rumsfeld said the pentagon had last -- had lost $2.3 trillion.ody wants to say anything about that. we have the tea party people and their cause. sign a woman carrying a that said keep your government's hands off my medicare. where do you stand on the tea party people? how can we fix the budget? host: we have talked about that a little bit, we will get mr. nussle to comment,. guest: they are part of the process. it is great people want to be part of the political process and part of the policy process. they have an opinion. even if they were not part of any organization, they would still hold that opinion. whether it is to is reflecting the tea party -- whether it is to respecting -- whether it is disrespecting the tea party or the democratic party, it is silly. happen is a better understanding and a clear understanding of how all of those interests can be utilized in order to come up with a solution. not having a solution. not having an agreement or a decision. no decision is a rotten decision. as we have seen in washington. for those who are wo

preventing that is the donald rumsfeld unknown/unknown.f that gets in the way, that's going to get in the way. given the budget deal, you have to assume that washington has been sidelined. god forbid, we don't get another earthquake that disrupts the global supply chain and perhaps you get growth that i wouldn't quite call is good but you can certainly characterize as better. >> we also still have the debt ceiling by the way. february 7th. that was not part of this deal? that's going to be perhaps another marketing event. >> i am trying to balance out the enthusiasm. >> it is not enthusiasm but restrained hope. >> getting on board the rally. you have got enthusiasm. i will meet you halfway and say that obviously, 177% rally in the stock market has convinced a lot of the nay sayers over the last couple of years to buy in. nor rielle roubini and mark farber. >>> any thoughts as to another record high from art cashin? >> i think i hear santa's sleigh bells still ringing. once they broke above 1815, you are out of that rectangular pattern. you