that interrogation, the plan of which was signed by donald rumsfeld himself, that plan was written, revisedscribed, extreme isolation sleep deprivation, cold rooms loud music and a strobe lights, death threats, threats -- ultimately, a threat to his mother. his chief interrogator came to him posing as a navy captain who was an emissary from the white house, handing him a letter that said mohamedou, we have your mother, we're bringing her to guantÁnamo. she will be the first woman in guantÁnamo and you can imagine what will happen to her in guantÁnamo. all of those things were calculated and written out ahead of time and government documents. meticulously detailed as torture perversely prone to do, and all of the daily reports from those interrogations. we had all of those documents by 2008 2 thousand nine. mostly because of two large government investigations. one by the justice department was prompted by fbi agents inside guantÁnamo, complaining about the treatment the pentagon interrogators were starting to meet out in guantÁnamo patterned on the cia's black site enhancement interrogation

it echos comments made more than a decade ago, donald rumsfeld.reating more of them than we are killing in effect. i wonder if you could make your point here. are you saying that by repeated military intervention in iraq in afghanistan, drone strikes in countries such as yemen, that there is a down side to that? that that helps recruit extremists? i might mention that one of the kouachi brothers in court cases said specifically it was the u.s. invasion of iraq and the abuse at abu grave that led him to want to fight american forces there. >> here's the first and most important thing. there is never a justification, an excuse a rationale for these kind of murderous terrorist attacks. the only people to blame for these murders in paris and other assaults around the world are the individuals that perpetuated it. but, my point has been this. we shouldn't be full of such hubris in the united states that we don't have a conversation about the fact that there are things that we do that are actions that we take that can create more terrorists create more

. >> there's donald rumsfeld. made a perfect prussian general. a lot of this stuff. oh and of course. what's wrong with me? [ applause ] i take issue with your supposition that there is no common thread. you think they're all different? they're all wonderfully individualistic? >> i know you can prove they aren't. >> i'm just about to do that. >> all right. wait until you see this. talk about sleight of hand. >> does anybody remember golda meir? and then you just add some hair. if you don't mind? [ applause ] >> give her a bit more hair. okay. >> that's all i know. [ applause ] thank you, buddy. >> look at this guy. thank you. >> thank you. >>> you're watching american history tv. 48 hours of programming on american history every weekend on c-span3. follow us on twitter. @cspanhistory for information on our sked yum, upcoming programs and to keep up with the latest history news. >>> after the american revolution and before he was elected the first president of the united states, george washington retired from public life. up next author edward larson focuses on washin

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george bush, and the vice president of the united states, and colin powell and condi rice and donald rumsfeld. and listening to the arguments as to why we need to go to war in iraq. now, when you are a new member of congress you are everything is done on the basis of seniority. we all know that. when you speak is determined by your seniority. what committees you sit on determined by seniority. even where you sit is determined by seniority. so at these meetings because i was the lowest on the totem pole, the most junior member of congress i was usually seated all the way at the end of the table as far from the president as i could get to it was kind of like my house on major holidays. i was always seated at the junior do with the kids while all the adults had their meals. but that seeding gave me a bird's-eye view of what was happening in these meetings. i was able to observe president bush and observe vice president cheney, the body language the texture, the tone of these meetings. and, obviously, these were classified meetings, most of them. obviously, i could write down what was said but i

george bush and the vice president of the united states and colin powell and condoleezza rice and donald rumsfeld and listening to their argument of why we needed to go to war in iraq. now when you are a new member of congress you are -- everything is done on the basis of seniority. when you speak as determined by your seniority, with kennedys used it on even where you said is determined by seniority, so at these meetings because i was the lowest of the totem pole the newest member is usually see see totally at the end of the table as far from the president as i could get. it was kind of like my house on major holidays i was always seated at the table with the kids while all of the adults had their meals. but that's seeding actually gave me a birds eye view of what was happening in the meetings. so i was able to observe president bush and the vice president and the body language and texture, the tone of the meetings. i couldn't write down what was said but i would leave those meetings having heard some of the most unusual arguments, some bordering on the absurd and some heavily serious. i would l

he was secretary defense under donald rumsfeld. good to have you on the program. >> thank you maria. >> how at the heritage foundation, no doubt looking at the issues of the day. can you tell us how the battlefield has change addd as new threats have emerged? >> on one hasn't it hasn't at all. we're still at war on terror despite what the president would like to say. this incident in paris has shown us that there's something between the big high profile 9/11 type of events and simple lone wolf some guy jumping in his car and running somebody over. these guys have some training some equipment, some support, and then they act. that's much more dangerous than the true lone wolf. >> so what do you think on the ground special forces need to be doing at this point? how do you break open this global network to get a handle on home grown? >> well the home grown is really a law enforcement issue if our country for fbi, uk, mi-5 guys. the special forces unit ss can be called in to support special forces on a take down. their job is overseas

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president of the united states requiring him to meet in person once a week with secretary of defense donald rumsfeldunleavy and his successor general miller have both repeatedly characterized guantÁnamo as an anarchist battle lab. >> what does that mean? >> the best thing we are been able to figure out -- that phrase caught everyone's attention. the first thing we looked into was, what were the experiments? we were able to find and discover some of the laboratory experiments were there, including giving them drugs that would cause psychotic breaks from to 30 days as soon as they arrived, and a variety of other things that were given to them over a long period of time. >> which had never been used in any context before. >> they claim the drug was to use for malaria. there is no malaria in guantÁnamo or cuba and every person who is brought their head re: had a medical examination -- there had already had a medical examination and proven to have no contagious diseases. so it was a psychotic inducing drug, which had been used for considerable period of time by other sources in order to break down the st

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interrogation plan written out ahead of time stepped by stepped, signed by all the way up to donald rumsfeldetary of defense, and a year of harrowing abuse that begins with extreme isolation, sleep deprivation extremes in temperatures. strobe lights loud music, stripping him, sexual abuse and assault. >> sreenivasan: his words paint a picture. "in a recent conversation with one of his lawyers, mohamed says he holds no grudge against any of the people he mentions in this book that he appeals to them to read and correct it if it contains errors, and he dreams to sit with them around a cup of tea after having learned so much from one another." nancy what's he like? >> he's a very talkative person very curious. but he's humble, he's compassionate and he really does hold no grudge. he just wants to get out. he understands that there are good people and there's good and evil really in all of us and he talks in the book about how -- i found it really interesting -- you don't get to choose your family and this became his family, whether he likes them or not, they're his family and he has to put up w

it is fair to say that donald rumsfeld and nelson rockefeller were put on the planet to peace each other off. [laughter] and each succeeded admirably. >> there was another guy involved than that to. >> yes, richard cheney. governor rockefeller governor rockefeller, i'm told by people who were there come in the morning, he had a sense of humor. in the morning he would walk by rumsfeld's office, opened the door, stick his head in and shout you are never going to be vice president. knowing or believing that that's exactly what rumsfeld hoped in 1976. rumsfeld was only one of a number of ford intimates who convinced the president that unless he dumped nelson from the ticket, that they could very well lose the nomination to reagan. and you know i think, i think there's a very good chance that they were right. >> how many of you remember that challenge by reagan? he came very close to -- >> and rockefeller quite the ultimate good soldier, ironically in the end ford was nominated with votes that rockefeller supplied, votes in newark state, pennsylvania and to a lesser degree in connecticut. pub

people like donald rumsfeld and others who are not the most spiritual men but a lot of pentagon briefings began ritualistically with power point slides that would start with scripture or a biblical verse usually christian but overtly religious invocation. not only recognized but encouraged political activism. it's worth repeating in a foreign policy sense. policy in pursuit of particular religious goals. this bottom up influence didn't begin with bush. he didn't create it but he did encourage it. has has been consistent but surged again in the 1990s with the most obvious example being this bottom up pressure that led congress to pass the religious freedom act. >> you can see the rest of this at c-span.org. we're going now to a portrait unveiling of the new dean of the house of representatives, a title give on the the body's longest serving member. the michigan democrat has served continuously in the house since 1965 and the first african-american dean of the house. we're expecting to hear from many lawmakers as well as eric holder and vice president biden who is on capitol hill today. >>

it sounded -- you can go back and look at what donald rumsfeld said about iraq's opposition being in the death throws over laid on what barack obama said. we've yot gone robinson coming. he wrote a column saying that barack obama was finished and said it was everything except the mishsion accomplished sign because we won and it's time for us to go back and live our lives. this is the fantasy that barack obama lived in perhaps for political reasons in 2011 and 2012 because of ideological reasons because he wanted to show everybody how enlightened he was. and what cavemen george w. bush and dick cheney were. and this does not fit his enlightened point of view. and so i think byron york is definitely on to something here. if you send somebody to what is now being called france' 9/11 you are admitting that everything you said about al qaeda in 2011 and everything you said about al qaeda in 2012 when you were run for president and making fun of mitt romney was wrong. the french willie will say this was the worst attack by al qaeda since september 11th. and i wonder just how bad barack oba

military action against obama and his associates, al qaeda i walked up to our secretary of defense, donald rumsfeld. i said let's go in do what we can, destroy the taliban which held government control in the country and underneath get engaged in development of democracy. maybe i was wrong. maybe time will demonstrate i was wrong. but certainly i don't anticipate ten years an still another ten years. certainly the rest of the middle east would try that, it would be far, far longer. i think we have to face the fact that the region will probably be in some serious turmoil for a long time to come, and our bets ought to be on those countries which like the european countries have already acquired cohesion of states and i mentioned them in my comments but not trying to do the heavy lifting ourselves. we could get the russians and chinese to be more cooperative. they have a stake being more cooperative, we would be better off. each sit on the sidelines and think, well the americans will get more engaged and this will improve our interests in competing with us here or there. we would like to collaborate t

i looked to the secretary of defense donald rumsfeld and said, let's go in and knock them out and do what we can to destroy the taliban, which held government control in the country, and then leave. don't get engaged in development of democracy. maybe i was wrong. maybe time will demonstrate that i was wrong, but certainly i don't think anybody anticipated it would be 10 years, and certainly in the rest of the middle east, if we were to try that, it would be far longer. i think we have to face the fact that the region will probably be in some serious turmoil for a long time to come, and our bets ought to be on those countries which, the european countries -- like the european countries, have already acquired some cohesion as states, but not try to do the heavy lifting ourselves. if we could get the russians and chinese to be more cooperative -- and they have a stake in being more cooperative -- we would be better off. each of them could be tempted to sit on the sidelines and think the americans will get more engaged, and this will improve our interests in competing here or there. i d

i have read the memoirs of george tenant, dick clark donald rumsfeld, and it is clear to me that she is incompetent. that she should not be placed on any kind of national security team. having her a heartbeat away from the presidency would give me a heart attack. she is responsible for ignoring repeated memos from dick clark george tenant, and others, including vladimir putin. obama bin laden was going to attack. she ignore them repeatedly. i looked into her scholarships. her dissertation was roundly criticized by scholars. she is not on the level of people like richard haas or the president. i am trying to warn bush. she had a negative influence on his brother, george bush. she dominated him, in my opinion . she excluded him from being able to connect from other members of his team who were relegated by condoleezza rice. host: time for a few other callers. note, the president left just a couple of hours ago for his trip to india. a story in the "wall street journal." the president will end that trip a day early and head to saudi arabia to pay his respects to king abdullah who died t

." >> boy tell you what donald rumsfeld saying a few things.t iraq. chapter and verse that the president has -- keeps forebiding these quotes that keep suggesting he may either be out of touch with the war on terror or may just wish it didn't exist. >> you don't want to make comments that are confident in predictions about any middle eastern state. now look four countries in the middle east essentially famed states. three for sure. syria, libya and yemen. iraq arguably a fourth. this one wasn't our doing, unlike the other three, but the fact is you got a country roughly the size of saudi arabia that is on the drinkbrink of failure. totally infiltrated by terrorist groups and lost essentially any part in the global effort against terrorism here. this is a serious piece of bad news. >> still ahead on "morning joe," he's the founder of paul mitchell hair care products. i use the gel growing up. like glue. >> what? >> spit in my hair nap will knock it down. >> pensacola gel. >> what you call it. >>> the luxury tequila petrone. we'll heavy how he we