guest: donald rumsfeld was not ok. he was very unhappy that a much smaller organization was taking the lead. he did not like the agency taking the issue anymore he believed that was why the pentagon was therefore. that is one of the reasons why rumsfeld pushed so hard for iraq war planning. iraq was being discussed and donald rumsfeld major the pentagon was ready and the pentagon ran the war in iraq and the cia took more of a backseat than it did in afghanistan in the early period. host: toby harnden, the untold story of the cia mission to avenge 9/11. before we take calls, your reaction to the taliban gaining control. guest: absolutely tragic. eerie echoes of the period before 9/11. the only sliver of territory that was free, that was occupied by the afghan resistance. after the fall of the governments, they were holding out geographically. difficult to conquer. after 9/11, american support, american airpower. probably a journey that could not be taken out. this time, they were left on their own and the americans had

" judy: that was the late donald rumsfeld. >> this happened with all the presidents.bama said that the war was coming to a conclusion. there was a ceremony at nato headquarters in which the u.s. official said the combat mission for u.s. troops was over, and behind the scenes, the pentagon and obama knew that u.s. troops would be in harm's way, and people were dying in combat for the ration of the war. judy: craig, you cite one military leader after the other. general petraeus has been critical of president biden, saying he should've realized that the afghan military was helping fight off isis. you cite him and other military leaders telling congress. >> we heard this month after month, year after year. we heard that the afghan police forces were capable of defending their country, and yet in these interviews, in the afghanistan papers, military officials were sending up highly critical reports. they said there leaders were corrupt, and expressed doubt that they could stand up in a fight against the taliban. the pentagon has known this for years, and in public they kep

amy: that's donald rumsfeld speaking december 6, 2001. the u.s.ost 20 more years. according to the costs of war project, the u.s. has spent over $2.2 trillion in afghanistan and pakistan. by one count, at least 71,000 afghan and pakistani civilians have died in the fighting. afghanistan is now facing a massive manitarian crisis, and the taliban is back in power. we turn now to pulitzer prize-winning reporter spencer ackerman, author of the new book "reign of terror: how the 9/11 era destabilized america and produced trump." the book is based in part on his reporting from afghanistan, iraq and guantánamo. talk about this moment, as the u.s. began bombing afghanistan when the taliban said they would surrender and also give osama bin laden over. the u.s. rejected both. >> this was a central aspect of the war on terror and a foreshadowing of what its implications would be. once we accept the frame bush offered, the war on terror, we were then locked in a struggle not just against al-qaeda, the entity culpable for the 9/11 attacks, but a much broader s

one year into the war, donald rumsfeld goes to president bush and says, there are two generals in town that i think you should probably have a meeting with. one was the general in charge of the middle east in iraq and the other was a general mcneil. bush applied to rumsfeld and said i want to be with general frank because of iraq but who is general mcneil? rumsfeld said sir, he is the commander in charge of the war in afghanistan. bush replied, well i do not need to meet with him. so the commander-in-chief had forgotten the name of his top general on afghanistan. when rumsfeld was trying to set up a meeting with bush, he said i do not have time to deal with that. i'm focused on iraq. from that moment, that said a lot about where the bush administration's energy and attention was focused. guest: you write -- host: you write president bush was promising the united states would transform an impoverished country traumatized by warfare for the past century. bush offered no specific benchmarks for achieving them, writing so few people ask press concerns the united states committed to an open

exactly a major success either says, because, but we went in there was such a life footprint under donald rumsfeld, that the arcadia and the leaders of the taliban escape the me it wasn't until 2011, 10 years after the campaign began, that american forces finally tracked down and killed a some, a, been loaded by them the world's most wanted terrorists, but found refuge in neighboring packets done. so the united states is over extended in a part of the world. it has no understanding of and is causing great, great damage everywhere. the they came off to me out of the tragedy of september, 11th, 2001 me can we begun to look forward with tremendous hopes towards the future. but then they began to vote aftab villages and holders and get all people hurt and, and killed. and homes destroyed that is way or the trend towards the negative began. oh no. the bombs were aimed at the taliban. many schools, homes and hospitals in the area also suffered extensive damage rates called hundreds of casualties. a great many women and children among the jungle. my way to my good man. that's why i despite achieving the

and people like dick cheney and donald rumsfeld, who were relatively new to government at the time, did not like when congress had, we need to step in and confront the national security state. and what's become a very out of control pill program cheney that went on during the reagan years in the eighty's to serve in congress. and when the iran contra scandal broke out into the open. cheney did not like congress being involved with anything that the executive branch was doing and you had the 2 others handle that emanated from the highest echelons of power. and the reagan administration was acting as though it had nothing to do with it. i've told you all that i know and you know, the truth of the matter is for quite some long time. all that you knew is what i told you. it was our witness this morning is mister robert mcfarland, the former national security adviser to the president. mr. mcfarland, we welcome you to the committee and we look forward to your testimony. mr. mccall, and did you have any discussion about the possibility of an effect farming out the whole contra support operatio

trapped in the rubble, it was a small victory near the end of the day on 9/11 for defense secretary donald rumsfeldply to hold a press conference. >> the briefing here is taking place in the pentagon. the pentagon is functioning. it will be in business tomorrow. >> reporter: behind him, in a show of undivided political support stood the heads of the senate armed services committee. three days later, congress passed a resolution authorizing the use of force. the u.s. unleashed its fire power, and by december, rumsfeld was taking his first trip to afghanistan. >> they're after the number of al-qaeda, they've killed a number of al-qaeda. >> reporter: u.s. military looked invincible, until march of 2002, when seven americans were killed in the battle of robert's ridge. one can be seen charging across a snow field directly at an al-qaeda machine gun position. american troops were tough and they were brave, but so was the enemy, fighting under the constant threat of being annihilated by airstrikes. army capital will swenson put his wounded sergeant on a medevac and gave him a kiss. >> we had a moment we

i watched donald rumsfeld for years perform at these press briefings. was one of the few really grumpy people in the briefing room because it seemed like a performance to me. there was no way of getting at it. the lessons reporters can learn, we don't have access to supersecret classified reports all the time. hopefully if we d seen them, we would have said, this is a huge mistake. i do think it's our job every day. it's not just lessons from the iraq war. it's our job every day to try to find out the truth. anchor: thinking about the truth , billions of dollars were poured into homeland security and the departments focused on immigration and security. vast powers were granted to surveilling americans. that set off a wave of hate crimes targeting muslims in particular. pierre, how do you connect these two? there's the issue of the way that the law enforcement agencies in this country change. there was also surveilling of muslim americans. how do they connect? >> one of the things that happened as a result of 9/11 is the law enforcement and intelligence

at the pentagon, defense secretary donald rumsfeld announces the shooting war against terrorism is on these terrorist threats is to go at them where they exist. >> the targets? the taliban military, air defense systems commanding bunker, air fields and bunkers around kabul, jalalabad and kandahar. also, terrorist training camps of osama bin laden and his al qaeda terrorist network. >> so to bring you quickly up to date, it's now coming up on 1:00 eastern time in afghanistan because of the time differences. it is 9:30 there, and a major attack is under way by u.s. military forces. we're about to get the details on all of that from the president of the united states who returned from camp david earlier. he'll be addressing the nation from the oval office in his capacity as the chief executive of this country, but also as the commander in chief of all u.s. armed forces. and as we have been saying, he is also expected to talk -- >> good afternoon. on my orders, the united states military has begun strikes against the al qaeda terrorist training camps and military installations of the tali

were subject to enhanced interrogation techniques which were signed off by the defence secretary donald rumsfeld used the word torture to me, what were the most difficult experiences you went through? so, one day, i remember it's around noon, but i don't think it's at noon. these middle—aged men by the name of richard zuley, lieutenant richard zuley, he called himself captain collins, came to me in my interrogation room and i was then interrogated by staff sergeant mary, the one you saw in the movie who was crying, and he told me that the united states of america decided to kidnap my mother and put her in a men's only prison, insinuating that she would be raped. he said she would remain in that prison until i confess to my quote—unquote crimes. and at that point, i knew there was nothing left for me to lose because the last time i saw my mother is when those police, those cops, in plain clothes, came to my house and led me outside the house and i could see my mother in the rearview mirror praying, holding the prayer beads. and she disappeared as we turned to the right after about 200, 150 metres

i remember one of the first conversations with donald rumsfeld was let's see if he gets lucky and shoot one of our planes down, then what do we do? saddam hussein was a threat and we thought he was rebuilding his weapons of mass destruction and the question was, do you wait until he has rebuilt them or do you do something about it now step our allies, some of our allies, the french, the germans had some of our allies including the british billions and polish were in with us on the very first attack on iraq, that first night. the president felt that the international community had not been convinced of saddam hussein working 17 different resolutions and it was time to take care of it. in retrospect, if we had known that he is not built weapons of mass destruction the levels we thought would we have done something differently? perhaps. what you know today can affect tomorrow but not yesterday. >> let me chime in on that. i left the white house late in the summer of 2002 and i heard some discussion of iraq and i called the president and asked him about it. he asked me to fly to california

i remember one of the first conversations with donald rumsfeld was let's see if he gets lucky and shoot one of our planes down, then what do we do? saddam hussein was a threat and we thought he was rebuilding his weapons of mass destruction and the question was, do you wait until he has rebuilt them or do you do something about it now step our allies, some of our allies, the french, the germans had some of our allies including the british billions and polish were in with us on the very first attack on iraq, that first night. the president felt that the international community had not been convinced of saddam hussein working 17 different resolutions and it was time to take care of it. in retrospect, if we had known that he is not built weapons of mass destruction the levels we thought would we have done something differently? perhaps. what you know today can affect tomorrow but not yesterday. >> let me chime in on that. i left the white house late in the summer of 2002 and i heard some discussion of iraq and i called the president and asked him about it. he asked me to fly to california

trapped in the rubble it was a small victory near the end of the day on 9/11 for defense secretary donald rumsfeldace in the pentagon. the pentagon is functioning. it will be in business tomorrow. >> reporter: behind him in a show of undivided political support stood the heads of the senate armed services committee. three days later, congress pass passed a resolution authorizing the use of force. the u.s. unleashed its fire power and by december rumsfeld was taking his first trip to afghanistan. >> they've captured a number of al qaeda. they've killed a number of al qaeda. they've wounded a number of al qaeda. >> reporter: the u.s. military looked invincible. until march of 2002, when seven americans were killed in the battle of robert's ridge. one of them, sergeant john chapman can be seen on drone video charging across a snowfield, directly at an al qaeda machine gun position. american troops were tough and brave, but so was the enemy. fighting under the constant threat of being annihilated by airstrikes. as in all wars, it came down to fighting as much for each other as for any cause. army capt

then the us defense secretary donald rumsfeld announced who was given the amount to an ending war. and you'll then keep in touch my social media and let us know if you think the global war on terror has really ended. ah, i have often said transparency for the powerful receipt for the bell this bit about privacy. what people care about is power. tony and sons has become a symbol of the battles of brevity. information is power. that's what's going on, or a huge struggle with governments and corporations who want to keep information secret and others who democratic rights should be pushed forward. and people have a right to know whether they're going to do watch such help to shift the conversation around transparency and see what that battle has done to him. i feel like julian might be coming to an end. we are in a conflict situation with the largest and most powerful employer in such a situation. it's remarkable when i would show the same wrong, why don't i just don't yes to shape out the same because the after an engagement equals the trail. when so many find themselves, well, the p

then the us defense secretary donald rumsfeld announced who was given the amount to an ending war. and you'll then keep in touch my social media and let us know if you think the global war on terror has really ended the the, the, the the breaking news on our natural gas prices, sir, just to an old time record in europe. now starting at $964.00 per 1000 cubic meters, right by the, our sparking phase of a winter energy crisis. the us secretary of state admits he has no idea who was killed in a drone strike in afghanistan last month. you know, full assessment will be, will be for you don't know if it was in a worker or an ices k operative. i can't speak to that and i can't speak to that in the setting in any event. so you don't know or won't tell us. i don't, i don't know because we're reviewing.

i mean, some said that in the a bit your ease of donald rumsfeld, they were far too kind to him. i mean, what did you make of the? i mean, millions, tens of millions were killed, wound displaced in that these was, oh, it was obscene. i mean the missionaries were largely obscene. it's one thing to dance on somebody's grade. but when that person created countless graves masquerades, i think we need to tell the truth about it. and the truth is dollars, shells, role in american vault, which is highly nefarious that was long term, meaning like the youngest and older secretary defense. i believe the secretary front place is the cheapest, stafford gerald ford. she's been fighting to unshackled the presidency as i was mentioning earlier, throughout a whole career. i mean, dick cheney as his protege, not the other way around. people forget that. he represents a strand of american conservatism that when hyper imperialist in the most old school cent and was sort of on college attic about it. and he was a disaster for us politics for the pentagon and for the world and his ill should be rejec

then the us defense secretary donald rumsfeld announced who was arguably amounted to an ending war. and you'll then keep in touch with social media. and let us know if you think the global war on terror has really ended ah, join me every thursday on the alex simon show. and i'll be speaking to guess in the world, the politic sport business. i'm show business. i'll see you then in the world. good evening and welcome to the coverage of the 2021 russian state duma actions around our roof studio that overlooks the coming. you can see it all. it's even slender for yourselves right now, we're going to be here to bring your guests in analysis and all the build up to 3 days devoted with millions of rushing will be getting to choose who they want representing them in the countries and you'll be with this route it all isn't profile the parties we have in political experts get the analysis lots to look forward. take touch thought though with.

but donald rumsfeld was there seeing if he can help in the moment. i want to bring in a couple of other experts here, but just let us know if you want to get in on this conversation because i think these two bring a lot of perspective now. joining us is a former fbi special agent, the founder of a center and new york sometimes best seller "anatomy of terror", and lawrence wright, best selling author of "the looming tower, al qaeda and the road to 9/11" and i think these two books taken together are two really important books about what hallie just said. we know so much more today than we knew then, which is interesting for the rest of us. but for you it was crucial. in fact, if you knew then what we knew today, if the information did exist, there is a possibility we could have headed off 9/11. and i don't say that to blame anybody, i say it to ask you, since the 9/11 commission, since knowing what we know, since declassifying cia information, could we prevent another 9/11 from happening today? >> thank you, ali. i think there's a lot of things that t

at 10:53, donald rumsfeld ordered military to increase death conradyness and prepare for war.r has not ended even though politicians say it has according to many of the families of survivors who you can feel their pain today when they were at the ceremony. we spoke to many of them. arthel. arthel: of course, jennifer griffin live at the pentagon, eric. eric: arthel, the u.s. did have an opportunity to try and nail osama bin laden before septembea leader became the most wanted man in the globe. nearly 10 years after he struck a may second, 2011 seal team finally found and killed him. in the concrete in pakistan. the hunt to find him a testament to the dedication of our intelligence agencies and bravery of our armed forces for an inside look at the raid chris wallace joins us. he, of course, is a fox news anchor and author of new book, countdown bin laden which chronicles the month leading to the daring raid that killed bin laden. chris, it's been very emotional and poignant day in shanksville and the pentagon, what are your thoughts as we observe this 20th year? chris: well, i

>> to rehash a phrase from the late donald wren's full -- from the late donald rumsfeld. we have more clarity on it because we have had reports of the housing regulators in china are looking and scrutinizing the bank accounts of ever grand. 1.6 million individual and china have put down deposits on ever grand properties that have yet to be built they want to make sure money gets to suppliers and they want that purgatory -- prioritized over creditors. we have yet to get any clarity in the $83 million offshore bond amon they have maybe a 29 day window. more coupons are due next week so the pressure increases but we know now that it's going to be the homeowners and the suppliers because they are concerned in china about social unrest. guy: exactly, everything flows from that, we appreciate you sticking around. we greatly appreciate it. night posting -- nike post -- posting first quarter sales, missing wall street estimates. they are citing supply chain efforts to meet strong demand. we have the details. ritika: missing his sales estimates and cutting full year growth. demand

guest: donald rumsfeld was not ok.s very unhappy that a much smaller organization was taking the lead. he did not like the agency taking the issue anymore he believed that was why the pentagon was therefore. that is one of the reasons why rumsfeld pushed so hard for iraq war planning. iraq was being discussed and donald rumsfeld major the pentagon was ready and the pentagon ran the war in iraq and the cia took more of a backseat than it did in afghanistan in the early period. host: toby harnden, the untold story of the cia mission to avenge 9/11. before we take calls, your reaction to the taliban gaining control. guest: absolutely tragic. eerie echoes of the period before 9/11. the only sliver of territory that was free, that was occupied by the afghan resistance. after the fall of the governments, they were holding out geographically. difficult to conquer. after 9/11, american support, american airpower. probably a journey that could not be taken out. this time, they were left on their own and the americans had left.

behind his oval desk who has occupied for seven months at this point talking to his chief of staff donald rumsfeld heard in the background as a name of john hersey. john is a pulitzer prize-winning novelist they ask him to follow him for a week during his presidency. president ford has agreed to that. the object was to write a lengthy story about gerald ford. they said america needs to know more about their president. the polling that was going on inside the fordne administration on this time ford's own sense confirmed with the magazine was asserting. ford needed to be better known by the american people. he well known inside the beltway on capitol hill in his fifth district. we go to the next slide where he had run for office in 1948. i love the image on the left. i came to know very well about gerald ford. he's well known in grand rapids he is known as a hard worker, a straight shooter is someone who had no pretense about him he is a good listener and someone who kept his word. and so here he is, the attorney talking to the farmers, cannot pretend to be a farmer himself butot listen to them and

back then, secretary of defense donald rumsfeld, whose role in wars in iraq and afghanistan will be debated for years if not longer than that. on that day, he made a critical decision. first, a decision to help at the site of the attack, when his security pulled him away, he made a decision the pentagon would not shutdown, it would remain open and functioning. in a sense, it would be a survivor of the attack and repairs and renovations completed in one year. another incredible moment that talks about how much that moment shaped u.s. foreign policy in the pentagon from that moment on, the acting chairman of joint chiefs of staff, richard meyers, was in a morning meeting on capitol hill. had taken with him an intern in the pentagon, and they rushed back to the pentagon after the attack. 20 years later, that army captain would become major general chris donahue, commander of the 82nd airborne, last service member on the ground in afghanistan a few days ago. >> oren lieberman, thanks so much. appreciate that. >>> just ahead of this day, 9/11, president biden said he would make appearances at al

for an investigation of the war and the afghan papers where there is evidence like people like donald rumsfeldlatantly lied to the americaneople, they knew we were losing and they were out there on tv basically lying. we need to instead -- we need to understand the entire context and of course investigate -- i support the president's decision but let's investigate their withdrawal as one chapter in a very tragic 20 year story. amy: do you call for an end to the war in iraq? rep. khanna: i do. i think those troops are sitting targets, that are making us less secure. we need a responsible way of ending that war. i would put barbara lee in charge of the investigation. person after person coming on cable television, i said where is barbara lee's voice? she warned us for 20 years that this is what would happen. let's have her be in charge of the investigation. amy: ro khanna, we want to thank you for being with us. you can also go to our website to see our interviews with the new yorker writer and with barbara lee. the sole vote against war for the afghanistan war, 20 years ago. this is democracyno

but even donald rumsfeld was saying we're not sure it is safe mr.o it took until the evening for the president to get back but to your point, what senator biden said, president bush was saying the same thing, i need to get to the white house, and we need to show the american people, yes, this is a miserable horrible day that changed everything but america will be strong. >> none of us will ever forget. jake, we're continuing to monitor what is going on here in washington. over at the pentagon. we're getting ready for some very moving memorial services. >> that's right, wolf. and the morning of september 11th, as you and your panel were just discussing, and the president at the time was george w. bush, and he at that moment was in sarasota, florida, reading to elementary school students, shortly after, he was informed about the attacks by the chief of staff andy card and then the president was rushed aboard air force one, which then became something of a flying oval office. as president bush and his staff tried to decide what to do, and what was goin

i remember that donald rumsfeld, former secretary of defense said he worried we were creating more terroristswere killing in iran. seems to me when something like this happens, you can expect the reaction will be very negative. if i were that family that had just been wiped out, i wouldn't be looking for any kind of compensation, any kind of reparation. i would be looking for revenge. and i think that's the thing that we have to worry about when we launch these strikes, to be as careful as we possibly can. and nothing is ever perfect. i know i have been on the other end of this in terms of having launched strikes based on bad intelligence. it happens. but i think we need to pause here long enough to talk about the strategy this family is going through. now to see their entire family wiped out over a mistake that we made. so i think it causes some question about going forward, using our over-the-horizon capability, making sure that as best we can whatever admonitions we use -- i remember a vietnam vet once said to me, remember this, at the end of every bullet, someone's son as died. so we have

bush and donald rumsfeld even went so far as to make grandiose predictions about how the war would bewed by history, despite what they really knew was happening behind the scenes. >> the history of military conflict in afghanistan has been one of initial success, followed by long years of floundering and ultimate failure we're not going to repeat that mistake. >> what has taken place in the last four years in afghanistan is an historic achievement and the people who have been involved in it can be enormously proud. and -- and history will look back on it as having been an amazing accomplishment >> seth: i'm honestly not sure if these guys were ever right about anything, ever like, these guys were so wrong about so many things, there's a good chance don rumsfeld wasn't even his real name it sounds like an alias dick whitman would use to get a job at raytheon. suffice to say, history will not look back on it as an amazing accomplishment if anything, i think it's much more likely that, when they get to the chapter on afghanistan, future textbooks will just say, "file not found. of course