this, among other people, i fault. president obama, essentially he gave everybody, dick cheney donald rumsfeld. he gave them all a free pass george w bush. they're all going to be rehabilitated. they're all going to be treated as great statesman. one day. i mean, they gave president obama a nobel prize for not being george w bush. the question, of course, the world that dancing around or avoiding as does it work as torture work doesn't, or people that have information that are part of an underground apparatus, a terrorist organization, revolutionary organization accomplished organization, whatever organized form of collective alan chip i, b, they won't break now and the people that you pick up that are innocence. yes. you tell them to pieces, you'll destroy them, you'll ruin them. i think that a few of the people that passed passed through my hands as an interrogator did have intelligence. but most the vast majority of the people that i dealt with work just being picked up because they were males of military age and they were just get swept up and he's res, i don't think torture is always bein

it was actually an homage to math, my partner and i are are mentor donald rumsfeld. his wife's secret service name joyce rumsfeld was javelin and we we admired her got to know her very well over the years and we decided we thought it was a catchy name. it didn't sound like another washington cliche and and so we decided to go with it and for whatever reason it's stuck and that's how we're known and we're proud to be associated with joy. keith urban is the president founding partner of the javelin literary agency. we appreciate you joining us on about books. thank you peter. appreciate it. and this is about books. this is book tvs. look at the latest publishing news and nonfiction books. here's some books being published this week. in south to america princeton university african-american studies professor and native, alabama imani perry provides a history of america through her travels in the south. nobel prize-winning economist amarta sen reflects on his life in the places. he's called home which include india bangladesh and england. is memoir home in the world? and

i mean, some said that in the mid series of donald rumsfeld, they were far too kind to him. i mean, what did you make of the? i mean, millions, tens of millions were killed when you know displaced in these was, it was obscene. i mean, the missionaries were largely obscene. it's one thing to dance on somebody's grade . but when that person created countless graves masquerades, i think we need tell the truth about and the truth is donald rumsfeld's role in american politics is highly nefarious and it was long term. mean he's like the youngest and oldest secretary defense. i believe he's our 3rd party licensed. he's a chief of staff, gerald ford. she's been fighting to on shackle the presidency as i was mentioning earlier throughout his whole career. i mean, dick cheney is his protege, not the other way around. people forget that. he represents a strand of american conservatism that when hyper imperialist in the most old school sense and was sort of on apologetic about it. and he was a disaster for us politics for the pentagon and for the world. and his ill should be rejected h

s. secretary of defense, donald rumsfeld, or part of it was we've had a generational war that will be like the cold or where we can justify any expenditure. we can just by complete secrecy without any sort of interference from overseers in congress or certainly the pub way. it wasn't just the military and the cia that were involved in underhand operations . with the s b i were to do with there's a narrative that managed their ages go with if they ever got to a point where they thought it was going too far along, they should just invite themselves to leave. that in fact, was never true. this be i shows up, you know, talking to without good guys who are going to coffee by. they know that you talk to them because you have been taught to him, you know, and this is like very evil. if b i is as bad as the military as bad, does the cia so make no mistake? if me i, agent, when they came to want dental, they, they wanted to bury me alive. the war on terror was beginning to threaten freedom and the rule of law as we ways to warrant terror overseas. we're also going after the terrorist here at h

holiday slump a reminder that 40% of all books are sold during the holiday period well, what do donald rumsfeld cotton donna brazil and john boehner all have in common. we'll give you one answer and that's that. they've all worked with the javelin literary agency here in washington dc the president of that organization joins us now on about books keith urban, mr. urban. when did you start javelin and is it fair to call it a literary agency at this point? it is peter. we're one of the litter agencies here in dc. we started at my partner matt latimer and i did 10 years ago just over that we celebrated at our 10th anniversary. last fall and we've been we love what we do and it's fun to to work with authors. some of them you named i think we've worked with about 150 authors at this point in 10 years and i like to think we have the funnest job in washington dc with just all the conversations. we have all the intelligence we're hearing. it's just it's a it's a fun job to be at the intersection of publishing and media and politics. it's it's a joy. well, mr. urban, what does a literary agent do? well,

and donald rumsfeld in the carrots in grand rapids, and we were riding back from the church to the internment on the grounds of the museum. huge crowds and this building was under construction at the time and every floor they were construction workers. would remove the helmets and it was very moving. and i remember literally standing at the gravesite working on my shoulder and saying something i'm going to live in that. building and site would have it it. i'm living in the building and completing the biography so it's kind of a you know, coming full circle the biography of gerald r ford will be completed and available when the hope is and it's and i'm on target will be completed in time for publication of just before the 2020. presidential election why then? well, i think attention will be riveted on. the office and i think the contrast between afford. for the president for the man for the republican and shall we say? current occupants of the white house will be noticeable personal questions have you ever driven never? that's a good question and i never and i never that's something i still i

and donald rumsfeld in the carrots in grand rapids, and we were riding back from the church to the internment on the grounds of the museum. huge crowds and this building was under construction at the time and every floor they were construction workers. would remove the helmets and it was very moving. and i remember literally standing at the gravesite working on my shoulder and saying something i'm going to live in that. building and site would have it it. i'm living in the building and completing the biography so it's kind of a you know, coming full circle the biography of gerald r ford will be completed and available when the hope is and it's and i'm on target will be completed in time for publication of just before the 2020. presidential election why then? well, i think attention will be riveted on. the office and i think the contrast between afford. for the president for the man for the republican and shall we say? current occupants of the white house will be noticeable personal questions have you ever driven never? that's a good question and i never and i never that's something i still i

attorney, assistant secretary defense for detainee affairs, advised then secretary of defense donald rumsfeld and robert scates, coordinated the pentagon's global detention policy operations including at guantanamo bay, and iraq and afghanistan. mr. stempson also served as a military prosecutor, defense counsel and recently served as deputy chief judge navy marine core trial judiciary. he continues to serve with the ranking captain, his commanding officer of the preliminary hearing unit. thank you both for coming. >> thanks, senator grassley, after we swear in witnesses, each witness will have five minutes for opening statements then rounds of questions, each senator five minutes. please try to remain within your allotted time. so first, could all the witnesses please stand to be sworn in. kind enough, raise your right hand, do you confirm the testimony you're about to give before the committee is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help you got? let the record reflect that the witnesses have all answered in the affirmative. general baker, will you proceed with your openin

he advised then secretaries of defense, donald rumsfeld, and robert skates, and coordinated the pentagon'ss, including at guantÁnamo bay and iraq, and afghanistan. mr. stimson has also served as a military prosecutor, defense counsel, and recently served as deputy chief judge, navy marine corps, trial judiciary. he continues to serve with a rank of captain as commanding officer of the preliminary hearing unit. thank you both for coming. >> thanks, senator grassley. after we swear on the witnesses, each witness will have five minutes to provide opening statements and then rounds of questions with each senator every five minutes. please try to remain within your allotted time. so, first, could all the witnesses please stand to be sworn in? kind enough to raise your right hand? do you affirm the testimony you are about to give before the committee will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you god? let the record reflect that the witnesses have all answered in the affirmative. general baker, will you proceed with your opening statement please? >> i thank chairman d

that afternoon, former secretary of defense donald rumsfeld, assured the public and made a statement. listen to his words carefully. this is what the secretary said. we do plan for the most part to treat the detainees in a manner that is reasonably consistent with the geneva conventions. madam president, that orwellian double talk kicked off a 20-year saga at guantanamo bay, a chapter in american history that is time to close. as we ■now know, th detention facility at guantanamo bay was deliberately created to avoid the requirements of the geneva conventions and other time-honored treaties that america used to brag about being party to. in the words of one senior official in the bush administration, guantanamo exists, quote, as the legal equivalent of outer space. close quote. it was designed to be a legal black hole where detainees could be held beyond the reach of laws and scrutiny and subjected to torture and unspeakable abuse. is it where due process goes to die. perhaps the most shameful lies surrounding the creation of guantanamo's detention facility was that it would help deliv

, including both of donald trump's defense secretaries, including people like dick cheney and donald rumsfeld and william cohen and came together and said that the scurrilous attacks on our democracy must stop, and we must allow for the peaceful transition of power. and then i looked at the very end of my remarks, and i ended with this, right before we were invaded -- i said this, my friend roy blunt, who i still have immense respect for what he did that evening, my friend roy blunt, my fellow rules committee leader many years ago found a statue, a bust of a man at the top of at that staircase. he did research. he went to historians. all he could find outs was no one knew who this guy was, except he was a cleric, hence the statue is called the unknown cleric. now, at the time the leaders in this great place thought this man important enough that they would warrant a statue for him. but today, no one knows who he is. senator blunt's message to school kids and senators alike that visit his office when he shows them this statue, what we do here is more important than who we are. and i ended with

it was actually an homage to math, my partner and i are are mentor donald rumsfeld. his wife's secret service name joyce rumsfeld was javelin and we we admired her got to know her very well over the years and we decided we thought it was a catchy name. it didn't sound like another washington cliche and and so we decided to go with it and for whatever reason it's stuck and that's how we're known and we're proud to be associated with joy. keith urban is the president founding partner of the javelin literary agency. we appreciate you joining us on about books. thank you peter. appreciate it. and this is about books. this is book tvs. look at the latest publishing news and nonfiction books. here's some books being published this week. in south to america princeton university african-american studies professor and native, alabama imani perry provides a history of america through her travels in the south. nobel prize-winning economist amarta sen reflects on his life in the places. he's called home which include india bangladesh and england. is memoir home in the world? and