donald rumsfeld is your biggest customer.he way, i had to have two conservatives on for every liberal. i could have richard perle on alone, but i couldn't have dennis kucinich on alone. i was considered two liberals. it really is funny almost, when we look back on how the management was just frozen by the antiwar voice. we were skulls. we weren't patriotic. american people disagreed with us. and we weren't good for business. amy: that was phil donahue talking about what happened to him 20 years ago. norman solomon, if you can take it from there and also talk about the double standard and how grief is covered and also your last book was "war made easy" and your new book is called "war made invisible: how america hides the human toll of its military machine." >> so much of this is about corporate power. the huge amounts of money that continued to be made by supplying the pentagon with the tools of the murders trade of ongoing war. anyone who thinks the lies and profiteering from slaughter is just 20 years ago is mistaken. what

design and i was part of a group of people who had actually thought and desert storm as well as donald rumsfeld, secretary of defense, who was a rough member of the group, the shock and all that we design was not the shock and all that general tommy franks administered what frank did was a desert storm sort of massive attack on steroids. if the real shock and i had been used, we would have try to depose saddam hussein without firing a shot. and where we would have started was to determine whether or not saddam actually had weapons of mass destruction, which i never believed advised the government. and the reason in many ways why saddam was reluctant to admit that was that he didn't want to tell his enemies. and many of his generals, he was absolutely naked. with the point is that desert storm was the model for iraqi freedom in 2003. it was not shock and awe, tommy franks, the general use that as a slogan i'm going to put in shock and awe. and the day the attack started, there was a full page photograph in the daily telegraph in england of a bomb going off in baghdad with the caption, baghdad bl

s. military and the schools all up to donald rumsfeld, while even 20 years after the invasion of iraq. hm. it's, it's a constant topic 0 political reasons not to do that and to go against them and ally against the u. s. alleys when a thousands of prisoners with harrowing tales of what's become the legacy of the us invasion of iraq. after an international outcry, 11 years soldiers were convicted of being involved and abuses at abu gharib and most other service members who were accused were reprimanded without being charged rights. workers have rejected the u. s. government claims that the viewers was isolated incidents or the work of a few bad apples. human rights watch amnesty international, the i, c r. c. have all documented cases of prolonged sleep and sensory deprivation, beatings, torture and being held naked. hardaman that this happened when the hanged me on the wall to the cliff in the handcuffs were here because of the weight of my body. the handcuff was cutting my hand to the wound, was almost rotten, cause another way of torture was noise. they bring big speakers with unbeara

designed and i was part of a group of people who had actually thought and desert storm as well as donald rumsfeld, secretary of defense, who was a wrong number of the group. the shock and all that we design was not the shock and all that general tommy franks administered what frank did was a desert storm. sort of massive attack on steroids. if the real shock and i had been used, we would have tried to depose saddam hussein without firing a shot. the same time geopolitical strategy of the kind that you write about you write books about has nothing to do with it in a way. and until someone settles down and realizes that, well, suddenly the united states and nato, and particularly benefiting out of this as lenin said, there are contradictions, comrade, and there are contradictions, everywhere, and you point out some of the issues. look, the europeans are dependent upon russian energy very. and that applies very much in germany where there is a soft spot for russia. for those reasons. if you go a step further, the bulk of members of the united nations, and if you do it by population or not on the sid

design and i was part of a group of people who had actually thought and desert storm as well as donald rumsfeld, secretary of defense, who was a wrong number of the group. the shock and all that we design was not the shock and awe. that general tommy franks administered what frank did was a desert storm sort of massive attack on steroids in the real shock. and i had been used we would have try to depose saddam hussein without firing a shot. the same time geopolitical strategy of the kind that you write about you write books about has nothing to do with it in a way and let until someone settles down and realizes that, that, well, suddenly, the united states and nato and particularly benefiting out of this as lenin said, there are contradictions, comrade, and there are contradictions, everywhere, and you point out some of the issues. look, the europeans are dependent upon russian energy period. and that applies very much in germany, where there is a soft spot for russia. for those reasons, if you go so further, the bulk of members of the united nations, and if you do it by population or not on th

and cisco's all up to donald rumsfeld while even 20 years after the invasion of iraq. it's the constant topic of political reasons, not to do that. to go against an ally against the u. s. l. e. one of thousands of prisoners, harrowing tales of what's become the legacy of the us invasion of iraq. after an international law try 11 us soldiers were convicted of being involved and abuses at abu ghraib. and most of the service members who were accused were reprimanded without being charged rights. workers have rejected the u. s. government claims that the abuse was isolated, incidents or the work of a few bad apples. human rights watch amnesty international. the i, c r. c. have all documented cases of long sleep and sensory deprivation, beatings, torture and being held naked harlem. and this happened when the hanged me on the wall lifted the handcuffs here because of the weight of my body. the handcuff was cutting my hand and the wound was almost rotten, cross another wave, torture was noise. they bring big speakers with unbearable, loud music. i think even after a 1000 yea

i think that george w bush and dick cheney, and donald rumsfeld and the neo cons at the pentagon will of it's and company. those people should be in the hey, along with vladimir putin, they should have been indicted for war crimes. i mean, if you'd seen what i saw people, the dozens, hundreds of civilians killed by awe by, by cluster bombs and shot at checkpoints and people being tortured and under grier . and it's, it's just inexcusable. and yes, the region is, is it is in a terrible, terrible state on re remember that benjamin netanyahu, back in 1996, did a report called a clean break, where he advocated the invasion of iraq and the i did. the americans were terribly naive about all this. they thought the middle east was made of good guys and bad guys. and if you got rid of the bad guys, everyone would live happily ever after. and that just hasn't happened, right. all right, i'm afraid we are out of time, so we're going to have to thank our guests for their great contributions to this show. we appreciate all of you at raj, the laura marlo, and believe we're happ and thank you to for

he and his team told president george w bush and the defense secretary donald rumsfeld, that quote, iraq had nothing to do with this. but that didn't seem to make much difference. he also added, while the world trade center was still smoldering, while they were still digging bodies out, people in the white house were thinking, ah, this gives us the opportunity we've been looking for to go after iraq. this is president bush's head of counter terrorism. my question, he inherited him from the clinton, from the carter, sorry from the clinton administration, has very high opinion of himself. and i think that's what's reflected in what you're reading. ok again, a bush instead of kevin says what was ignored? no, no, he wasn't ignored. it's simply not true, i mean, he's simply wrong on that. as i say, is a very inflated opinion of his own role in these things. one reason he was ignored was that he was such a self promoter and such a narcissist. the fact was that there was still concern that sadam hussein at the point where he could break free from un sanctions, un economic sanctions. and get rid

design and i was part of a group of people who had actually thought and desert storm as well as donald rumsfeld, secretary of defense, who was a rock member of the group. the shock and all that we design was not the shock. and all that general tommy franks administered with franks did was a desert storm sort of massive attack on steroids. if the real shock and i had been used, we would have try to depose saddam hussein without firing a shot. and where we would have started was to determine whether or not saddam actually had weapons of mass destruction, which i never believed advised the government. and the reason in many ways why saddam was reluctant to admit that was that he didn't want to tell his enemies. and many of his generals, he was absolutely naked. with the point is that desert storm was the model for iraqi freedom in 2003. it was not shock and awe, tommy franks, the general use that as a slogan i'm going to put in shock and awe. and the day the attack started, there was a full page photograph in the daily telegraph in england of a bomb going off in baghdad with the caption, baghdad,

as the late donald rumsfeld set paraphrasing machiavelli hence, seymour hersh, was actually tasked by the establishment and writing a sub stack piece on nord stream. as means of revealing the method in a cult speak, controlled opposition, as indirect confirmation of who and what i did norm snored stream in order to signal that they're capable and willing to commit industrial terrorism racks bore. yet again, it's mind boggling how the cranium masses do not see how they don't play as why lying boggling to me. the german cancel would sit next to biden and not say a word about it. that's mind blowing to me, gentlemen, i have to go to a break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on the west war on russia say with ah, in east to come to the russian state. total. never, i've side as i'm phoning, northland scheme, davis with within 50 probably. okay, so mine is 25 and speed you went home with we will ban in the european union. the kremlin. yup. machine. the state on russia for date and r t spoke neck, given our video agency, roughly all band on youtube and pinterest. and

as the late donald rumsfeld said, paraphrasing machiavelli and seymour hersh was actually tasked by the establishment and writing as sub stacked piece on nord stream. as means of revealing the method in a cult speak, controlled opposition, as indirect confirmation of who and what i did neurons north stream in order to signal that they're capable and willing to come in industrial terrorism racks bore . yet again, it's mind boggling how the premium masses do not see how they don't play as my mind boggling to me. the german cancel would sit next, the biden, and not say a word about it. that's mind blowing to me, gentlemen, i have to go to a break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on the west war on russia. stay with ah ah, during the 2nd world war in nazi occupied poland valencia was a farming region. today is mount of ukraine between 1943 and 945 members of the ukrainian insurgent army led by stepan bandera massacre, thousands of poles in virginia. in a diabolical ethnic cleansing process. the mergers were particularly horrific and brutal villages were burned and

the important fact to keep in mind, and i think it is a fact, is that donald rumsfeld and president bush were on totally different pages with regard to what to do in postwar iraq. rumsfeld wanted to disengage as quickly as possible, and president bush, having decided to invade iraq, did want to promote democracy and freedom. there is no indication that those were significant priorities at all of rumsfeld or of general tommy franks, , the head of the central command. so there was dysfunctionality at the very highest levels of the administration, and responsibility for that does reside inside the white house. as far as your comment about whether it's the conceptualization of the invasion that was inappropriate or the execution, i think there's no doubt the execution was terribly flawed. whether the conceptualization, that is, the decision to invade, whether that was the right or wrong decision, i think when one steps back and puts it in context, serious people can disagree on whether it was the right decision or the wrong decision. whether the conceptualization was right or wrong i think i

as the late donald rumsfeld said, paraphrasing machiavelli and seymour hersh was actually tasked by the establishment and writing as sub stacked piece on nord stream. as means of revealing the method in a cult speak, controlled opposition, as indirect confirmation of who and what i did neurons north stream in order to signal that they're capable and willing to commit industrial terrorism racks bore. yet again, it's mind boggling how the cranium masses. you would not see how they don't play as why mind boggling to me, the german cancel would sit next to biden and not say a word about it. that's mind blowing to me gentlemen, i have to go to a break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on the west war on russia say, without the ah ah, ah, in the lease hunter, russian state little narrative. i've stivers, i'm phoning most landscape div asking him the american house, our sons, i'm at for a group in 55 when. okay, so mine is 2000 speedy. one else with we will van in the european union, the kremlin media machine, the state on russia for date, and c, r t spoke neck, given

doubling down on the optics of intimidation because it's better to be feared than love is the lay donald rumsfeld set paraphrasing, machiavelli and seymour hersh was actually tasked by the establishment and writing a sub stack piece on nord stream. as means of revealing the method in a cult speak, controlled opposition, as indirect confirmation of who and what i did, and orange nord stream, in order to signal that they're capable and willing to come in industrial terrorism racks bore. yet again, it's mind boggling how the premium masses do not see how they don't play. it's why lying boggling to me, the german cancel would sit next, the biden, and not say a word about it. that's mind blowing to me, gentlemen, i have to go to a break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on the west war on russia. stay with ah, ah ah hi, i'm rick sanchez and i'm here to play with you. whatever you do, you do not watch my new show. seriously, why watch something that's so different. my little opinion that you won't get anywhere else. welcome to please. i do have the state department, the cia wea

as the lay donald rumsfeld, set paraphrasing machiavelli hence, seymour hersh was actually tasked by the establishment and writing as sub stack piece on nord stream. as means of revealing the method in a cult speak, controlled opposition, as indirect confirmation of who and what i did, and orange nord stream, in order to signal that they're capable and willing to commit industrial terrorism racks bore. yet again, it's mind boggling how the premium masses do not see how they don't play. it's why lines boggling to me. the german cancel would sit next to biden and not say a word about it. that's mind blowing to me, gentlemen, i have to go to a break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on the west war on russia say without it, ah ah, a wrong one. 0, just don't hold any new world yet to shape out. disdain becomes the advocate and engagement. it was betrayal. when so many find themselves worlds apart, we choose to look for common ground. ah ah, welcome back to cross sack where all things are considered on peter level to remind you were discussing the west war on russ

the late donald rumsfeld, a great friend and mentor, this is a known-unknown. >> bret: covered him for years. larry, as always, thank you. >> appreciate it. >> bret: the alaska project you heard from peter doocy is the latest in a series of shifts toward the center by president biden. he has come company among democratic colleagues, taking a look at that from capito capitol hill. >> this is all failed policies. >> republicans throwing and i told you so at the president as he approves the below drilling project in alaska, breaking with progressive speed sender at berkeley calling it a disastrous decision. some say biden is shifting to the middle to save his 2024 chances. >> because he is running for reelection. >> the majority of democrats appear to be following suit. last week, more than 30 senate democrats voted with the g.o.p. to nullify at d.c. city councils progressive crime bill after biden announced he would not veto the measure. >> he realized how crazy this is and that crime is going to matter in the presidential race. >> democrats also taking a harder stance on issues like the

he and other conservatives such as dick cheney and to donald rumsfeld, who worked in the ford administrationwere committed to preserving the powers of the presidency, against greedy and reckless assaults from members of congress, the media and others, who were trying to new to the presidency after watergate. -- neutered the presidency after watergate. the people he worked with included the famous chow chow, and they did not attend their fortunes to richard nixon. they understood after the scandal would fade from view, the country would need a strong executive. step -- scalia testified on the hill a lot, there is a lot of back-and-forth from that time, as many people did not match his intellect. scalia also during this time played a very important role in reforming the intelligence community, and setting the rules of the road after watergate for the intelligence community he was even called upon to give approval on april 30, 1975, for the evacuation of our personnel from the embassy in south vietnam by helicopter. because they wanted to know if it was legal to do under the work powers -- war

might know a guy jeff bezos, look as little bit different there donald rumsfeld is over here.s a wall of princeton alumni. i want to bring in lori who is the vp here at the nassau inn palmer square. awesome spot. tell me about this wall? what does it take to make it on the wall? >> you know what? there is no set criteria. we try and display a random is sampling of the many wonderful graduates and my opinion, if you graduate from princeton university, you all deserve to be on this wall. it's not just limited to these people. we do try and rotate it out every few years so that we have got samplings some of the younger graduates and not people from the original years. [laughter] >> bill bradley age. >> pete, we would love for you to go up on the wall. >> really? >> we have your basketball photo. [laughter] [applause] >> and we would love for you to sign it and you can do me a favor, sign right here so the framing won't cover. >> sign right there. >> what a shot. that's awesome. the picture is going to go on the wall. >> brian: now we need another source. >> ainsley: she said it w

inside the white house and ultimately president bush deferred to the tactics and strategies that donald rumsfeldemployed. to promote democracy and freedom. there is no indication that those were significant priorities at all of rumsfeld or general tommy franks, the head of central command. there was dysfunction atlanta at the highest levels of the administration and responsibility for that does reside inside the white house. as far as your comment about whether it's the conceptallization of the invasion that was inappropriate or the execution, i think there is no doubt that the execution was terribly flawed. whether the conceptualization, the decision to invade was the right or wrong decision, i think when one steps back and puts it in context, serious people can disagree whether it was the right decision or the wrong decision, whether the conceptualization was right or wrong can be seriously debated and is debated. and the execution was terribly flawed during these initial months and contributed to an enormous amount of demoralization and totally at the time undermined america's image. >> one f

donald rumsfeld had an inadequate force to do that.was iran what we did was made the region safer for iranian influence. we alienated americans from government and foreign policy. where you began this show, a lot of the populism in the country can be linked to the iraq war. clearly the isolation of it can be this is a classic case, not just a fwar of choice as i dubbed it but it was overreach that was the big lesson. the united states cannot go about the world, to quote john quincy adams, or maybe i'll put on my jon meacham hat for a minute, in a search of monsters to destroy we overreached the region. the united states, the world paid a real price for it. >> to further richard's point, right now, we are seeing a bipartisan group of lawmakers trying to claw back some of the authority to declare war from the executive branch pointing to this 20-year mark of the iraq invasion. admiral stavridis, want to get your thoughts on the anniversary. here we are 20 years later what you think about when you reflect on the conflict, but also where y