i'm joined by donald sherman, chief counsel.had a bookbinder on the show, and then asked hand comment, i said it's probably not illegal but donald trump did this and his response to me was, i'm not sure it's not illegal that donald trump did this. first of all, notwithstanding the supreme court ruling last week, is it illegal for somebody running for office who is promising to do things that you know they are going to do to ask for money for their campaign, while in the same sentence, saying i'm going to do the things you want me to do. tell me about what donald trump said to these oil executives and whether that would be on the face of it illegal. you apparently think so, because he filed the court case. >> one of the reasons why we filed this complaint is becauseç we believe there needs to be an investigation to figure out exactly what donald trump said and what he promised. now, of course, under our last campaign finance laws, politicians all the time meet with donors and make promises or talk about their political platform.

donald trump. >> the apprentice, dave sherman. amazing reviews but there is a really good chance people do not get to see it. studios are shying away, they do not want to buy this thing. they do not want to put it out there. what is that say about where we are as a country? is that not showing that business leaders do not want to get all sides with the next potential president? that feels very russian of us. >> it's actually a really big shift right now in the movie business away from having distribution for the controversial documentaries and controversial films. this comes at the end of a big trend that you are seeing which is. there been great movies about russia, china, middle east which are not being either. the fact that they are running shy is about control. >> absolutely. that is a problem. and there is the fear that we have already discussed around politicians. in terms of business leaders. do you want to get on the wrong side of donald trump? >> doesn't that feel like many russia? >> there is a world in which the electio

investigation, by the way, the republican, donald trump appointed durham to investigate the investigators, and he came back with nothing. lisa rubin, ashley parker, jake sherman, chuck rosenberg, thank you very much for starting us off on what is a very serious day, frankly. still ahead, what donald trump's conviction may or may not mean for the 2024 election. chuck todd has thoughts about who to look out for in particular. >>> and it is day three of the hunter biden trial. what happened when his ex-wife took the stand. >>> first up, senator patty murray says it's a simple question, do you support the right to contraception or no? what republicans will do when faced with a key vote on that issue later this hour. we're back in 90 seconds. back is react to fast-moving markets with dynamic charting and a futures ladder that lets you place, flatten, or reverse orders so you won't miss an opportunity. e*trade from morgan stanley i used to leak urine when i coughed, laughed or exercised. i couldn't even enjoy playing with my kids. i leaked too. i just assumed it was normal. then we learned about bulkamid. an fda approved non-drug solution for our condition. it real

according to reporting by jake sherman, speaker johnson is telling people he made those appointments expressly because donaldand now perry, a man at the center of the trump fae collector plot in 2020, is basically vowing to conduct actual oversight over the deep state for a change. joining me now, congressman eric swalwell. great to have you both here. let me start with you, because you served on that intelligence committee until the republicans kicked you off. how unusual is it for the speaker to a point and not tell the chair of that committee? >> i've never seen it happen. that is so disrespectful. you meet three floors before -- below the capital. there are no cell phones. you don't have the cameras and it is not so public and you want them to work well together. putting perry and jackson on the intel committee would be like putting bonnie and clyde in charge of bank security. it is absurd and that committee, especially during election time, you are focused on what foreign adversaries are doing to try to interfere in our election and now you have two people at the behest of donald trump who are going to

. >>> reporter jake sherman who always finds resources in the room reported today that in his meeting with house republicans, donaldle city. that is of course what donald trump says about cities where black people live. and especially cities with black mayors. >> donald trump want to talk about things that are horrible, all of us lived through his presidency, so right back at you, buddy, i would say that. look, obviously donald trump is wrong about something yet again. i find it kind of perplexing, kind of strange, that he would insult the largest city in wisconsin because he's running for president 194,000 votes in the city of milwaukee and donald trump received 48,000 votes in milwaukee. joe biden won the state by 20,682 votes. for donald trump to win wisconsin this time he would have to get more votes than he got last time. even he should understand that and apparently donald trump thinks the way to do that is to lie about the biggest city in wisconsin. joining our discussion now is democratic congressman gwen moore from wisconsin. she represents milwaukee and is a member of the most powerful committee, the ways

capitol hill reporter jake sherman, who always manages to find sources inside the room during republican meetings, reported today that in his meeting with house republicans, donaldur convention, is a horrible city. that is, of course, what donald trump says about cities where black people live, and especially cities with black mayors. >> if donald trump wants to talk about things that he thinks are horrible, that all of us lived through his presidency, so right back at you, buddy. obviously donald trump is wrong about something, yet again. i find it kind of perplexing. i kind of kind of strange that he would insult the largest city in wisconsin because he's running for president. he obviously wants to win wisconsin to win the election so to insult the state is hosting your convention i think is kind of bizarre. kind of unhinged, in a way, especially considering the fact that in milwaukee, there are about 50,000 republicans who live right here in the city so you're calling their home horrible. i don't quite understand that. >> in 2020, joe biden received 194,661 votes from the city of milwaukee and donald trump received 48,414 votes in milwaukee. joe biden won th

sherman's report on this. if that was said and must have been somewhere where me, brian mast, byron donalds, jason smith, likeone of us heard that because we've got asked it after the meeting and i was like, i never heard this once. i'm understanding where this is even coming from. so cnn's toward horrible, it was used this but i appreciate your work. well, kind of talking about either something of the country or something that's going on because i think that we can all agree that it's pretty horrible what we're seeing on our borders, pretty horrible. we're seeing with regards to elimination of the middle-class. and so i think that it could have been erected. mother. further word, horrible. >> absolutely. >> so congress, we've been talking this morning about mitch mcconnell, who i shook hands with the president after not speaking to him since the january 6 riot at the capitol. and that that image i also recalls the one where kevin mccarthy went down and that was just a couple of weeks after the january 6 insurrection and stood next to donald trump. i just want to remind you and our viewers of what both mccart

sherman of punch bowl news. he has reporting on what happened inside the meeting. jake, what can you tell us? >> reporter: it was typical donald as governor kasich said, a moment of unit and getting on the same page. that wasn't what it was about. it was a long ramble about things he likes and doesn't like and people he doesn't like. he talked about nancy pelosi's daughter allegedly telling him they would be good in a relationship, or a good match. one of pelosi's daughters said that was not true. he said, and we broke this, he doesn't like milwaukee. it's a horrible city he says. the campaign has pushed back on that. it's amazing to see, katy, all of the people in the room have a different explanation. either he said it, he didn't say it, he said it but meant this or that. he was talking about the park in milwaukee. katy, you and i have been through this. it's taking me back to 2020, 2019, 2018 and for you earlier than that in which people hear what they want from trump. it's. >> all: over the place. >> i found it interesting that senator murkowski said she feels like she's been throw back into his first administration where

sherman tank. >> it's not a very good tank. >> it's not a very good tank. >> and you're fighting a tiger tank, which is donald trump. and that's what they want him to do because he was on this was this has to do with the whatchamacallit last night, the presidential debate. louis. yeah the presidential debate. you had a biden moment there, which i happened to watch during the daytime because i can't watch any of these things at night—time because they stress, they stress me out. i can't watch this program. and i don't know how these people could watch the news any daylight at this hour, well, i actually stayed up and watched it because i'm so dedicated. people are always like, how do you know so much, nick? it's because i put in the extra hours staying up, watching two old men at 4 am. although trump did well, he was although trump did well, he was a little bit rambling, as trump always is. but biden was so bad. we know he's been bad lots of times. he does gaffes. he seems a bit old, but he said he was so bad. there were moments when he thought, is he going to be able to carry on? yeah. he went silent for a long time

donald trump's character did affect him in 2020. but did it really? and frankly, has character ever really mattered? joining us now is chief political analyst chuck todd. and msnbc contributor jake shermant i'm sure a lot of people will be yelling at their televisions over, but does character when it comes to presidential races, does it matter? has it ever really mattered? >> it's funny you say this. i have been asking that same question. if we want to the go back to the first time we had a former president run for his old job, it was grover cleveland. one of the essential attacks against him was character. he had a child out of wedlock. it didn't matter. fast forward to bill clinton. george h.w bush ran a character campaign and it didn't work. bob dole went back at character. there's a famous line, he just sort of throws up his hands in frustration basically doesn't character count for anything. and the fact of the matter is, no, we're all -- we all have a little narcissism in us. meaning, we all care about what's in front of us. what does it mean for us? and we also, on one hand, we in the press sometimes treat the presidency as a monarchy, but it's a reflection of themgss. so i think