donald sterling as an american has the right to be an nasty bigot in the privacy of his own home without being secreted lid recorded and destroyed. bill mahe regave a great monologue on this, for simply saying maybe you shouldn't be subject to secret recordings that can ruin your life in the privacy s of your own home, the guy two tweeted that was fire immediately, without even -- he wasn't even called in they fired him publicly on twitter. and so we tracked him down. and he is so mistrustful of the media. >> understandably. >> he flirted with the idea of talking with us for the book and ultimately decided i can't i can't do it. the discussion is literally been ended. and he has been scared by this. just an average guy. these are not the types of things that we want to see happen in a country that we hope to live and think and write and exchange ideas for the next god willing few decades so so we're like this is a problem this not what america is about. let's write "end of discussion" and shine a line on what it going on, how it happens who these people are and how organic outrage are of

remember the whole donald sterling thing, the owners of the clippers have been recorded by his lover making some deeply racist remarks sort of sequel he did know you've been recorded in his own home is a huge uproar at a loss to team hummer to applause for donald sterling. he's a racist, and we are not defending him but there's this twentysomething and working for the gaming company who just tweeted this is an unpopular opinion. he gave that caveat. problem number one donald sterling as an american has the right to be a nasty bigot in the privacy of his own home without being secretly recorded and destroyed by. bill more that a great monologue on hbo as well. -- bill maher. maybe shouldn't be subject to secret according that can ruin your life in a private of the oh, no. the guy who tweeted that was fired immediately without even though he wasn't even called them. they fired him publicly on twitter. so we tracked him down and he is so distrustful of the media -- >> understandably. >> he flirted with the idea of talking to us. ultimately, he did something like i can't come i can do. t

think about donald sterling, the former owner of the clippers. this was a huge news story.as unhappy about african-americans coming to his games, you know? he's just vilified and run out of town, has to sell his team and so on. most old guys back in the '50s thought like him, and they weren't private about it. now that -- you just can't say those sorts of things. i think earlier you played that song by paul mccartney, it's getting better all the time. the next stanza he says i used to be cruel to my woman, i would beat her and keep her apart from the things she looed. when i heard that -- loved, when i heard that recently i thought, sir paul you can't say that anymore. just little stuff that shifts that we just no longer do. john: because of science and reason, you say and you insult religion saying religion is not the source of moral progress. many people watching will say, yes, it is. >> during the enlightenment there became a movement to try to apply science of reason to solving social problems. instead of treating behavior as a sin let's treat it as something that's a p

i'm reminded of the donald sterling incident. both incidences, they are inexcusable that the same time it is raising the question of if they didn't know they were being filmed where does your freedom of speech come into play. i don't agree with what the attorney did but it is troublesome that you could be saying something stupid, films randomly and expelled. prof. chatelain: there are consequences to our speech public and private. our expectations of privacy can have consequences in the public. the question of what does it mean when a group of students on a bus on the way to a party that part of their entertainment, part of them getting their head in the party game is to sing a racist song on a bus? what does that say? thoughts about this? >> there was a reporter that made a comment about michelle obama. he made a very [inaudible] which is very offensive. he has commented on several things. where does that come into play? prof. chatelain: there's a sense of there is a standard as an employee that this is not ok. this reminds me o

donald trump's remarks? >> obviously i disagree. i think hillary has a sterling record.e did a fantastic job. the work that she did to further lgbt rights and let's remember the reputation of the united states was not doing so well. so one of the things that she did very well i think, is she traveled around the world repairing those relationships. it was critical for this country. >> let's talk about the interview from cnn yesterday. she called herself very disappointed with trump. that was before the interview. some critics say that was not a strong condemnation of trump. >> she actually made comments about it previously. i think trump made it very clear, his comments were pretty deplorable. what hillary clinton pointed out was that none of the gop contenders, they took quite a while to respond the first time trump made those comments. he has doubled down on them sense. they finally started to make comments. here's the problem. everyone wants to have a conversation about immigration reform about keeping families together. she's talked with dreamers and about policy and

sterling. while he may be enjoying this infamy in the political world i think for the long run this has been very bad for donaldmp. >> he has no motivation to behave himself in the debates and no motivations to listen at all of and not that he will listen to me an independent run is something he should not take off the table. i think that last time we had a clinton and a bush there was a third party candidate. thank you both for your time tonight. and watch krystal on the cycle. right here on nbc. >>> still ahead, a big fight between hillary clinton and jeb bush. all about fairness and workers' rights. plus the science behind false confessions. why some people admit to crimes they didn't do. (glasses clinking) ♪ (ground shaking) well there goes the country club. the 2015 dodge durango. now with available beats audio. are you still getting heartburn flare-ups? time for a new routine. try nexium® 24hr. the latest choice for frequent heartburn. get complete protection. nexium level protection. [ female announcer ] who are we? we are the thinkers. the job jugglers. the up all-nighters. and the ones who turn ideas i